Has anyone delved into the mirky waters of Klaus's genealogy? As I'm new to the fandom, I might have missed something in either canon or past discussions, but as far as I know, what we know is that
( Read more... )
Yay! I can see not just the fiction but also a nice essay here... *Dorian!ShoulderDevil pokes Diana with a tiny golden pitchfork*
By the way, shouldn't Tyirian be from the distaff side?
If Persimmon is Tyrian's surname, and not some stupid nickname ("hi I am Persimmon" -- "Hi I am Laurel" -- "Hi I am Thyme") he must be a maternal descendant, otherwise we'd have Klaus Persimmon. Unless they shot the embarrassing surname out of existence: but they are too traditional to have a name change, I suspect.
I've wondered about that too. I thought perhaps the Persimmons had been at some point granted an honorary new surname for service to the Crown or some such and let the weird old one fall into disuse, but I'm not even entirely sure that ever happened, historically. I got the idea because I once read that sometimes Germans used to be punished for crimes by being saddled with embarrassing last names, like "Goldwater" which sounds great in English but not so much in theirs, but that nowadays their stubborn descendants see no reason to change them and not to go around with last names that mean stuff like "vomit" and "idiot" (i.e. Johnny Depp's ancestors).
I suppose it's more likely that at some point in the lineage, there was only one surviving child to inherit and it was a girl, and she married a man named Eberbach.
Yep, I might work up an essay from this, once I've done some more work. *G* Of course, the more I delve into the research - both of Klaus' possible family lines and the time period - the more I'm delayed on writing the story (and believe me - I can research something to *death*. One of the drawbacks of having a library sciences masters
( ... )
That's interesting; it's a Japanese custom that sometimes, if a couple has no sons, their son-in-law and grandchildren will have their family name instead of the usual paternal one.
It must have been fairly common practice in Germany, because my ancestors there were simple farmers and not titled landholders, and it occurs several places in the family tree. Not just in my particular family, but also families that married into ours.
By the way, shouldn't Tyirian be from the distaff side?
If Persimmon is Tyrian's surname, and not some stupid nickname ("hi I am Persimmon" -- "Hi I am Laurel" -- "Hi I am Thyme") he must be a maternal descendant, otherwise we'd have Klaus Persimmon. Unless they shot the embarrassing surname out of existence: but they are too traditional to have a name change, I suspect.
Reply
I suppose it's more likely that at some point in the lineage, there was only one surviving child to inherit and it was a girl, and she married a man named Eberbach.
Reply
Reply
Reply
Reply
Leave a comment