Peter Stokes: At it again!
His response:
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Hi Kat
I find it interesting that you talk about "facts", consider Exodus as biased, and then your first web link to a so called "fact' - is from a discussion about kinky sex and states "Dr. Trevor Corneil, a physician at the Downtown South's Three Bridges Community Health Centre and a clinical associate professor at UBC, points out in a phone interview that "surveys have shown that anywhere from 30 to 50 percent of heterosexual couples have engaged in anal sex, many on a regular basis, contradicting the general belief that this is a 'homo' activity."
Phone interview! Where are the actual statistics? What sample of people? Is he a homosexual? ALL genuine questions I think need answering before one can take them as fact.
I stated in a Senate hearing more than ten years ago that anal sex was being promoted through pornography - often made by homosexuals - to take the heat of the 'HIV/AIDS is a homosexual disease' debate. It did not work - as I pointed out, in the west 80% of HIV/AIDS is homosexual sex related.
Let me say categorically that ANY anal sex is dangerous - hetero or homo - or even lesbian. It is not the safe place to play, regardless of the eroticism that might be gained from it.
Facts in Wikepedia? - You have to be kidding - a very unreliable website as judges have stated in a number of cases where it has been used as a defence.
Humans are not animals - as even some homosexuals have stated it is an insult to say that because animals do something it proves it is natural for humans.
You want an unbiased source - I sent it. A link to a homosexual health website.
Here is another - Dr. Stephen Goldstone, homosexual author and “gay” advocate, The Ins and Outs of Gay Sex: A Medical Handbook for Men,” p. 16. “[An] anus is the highest risk place for STDs [sexually transmitted diseases].”
Go to http://www.thebody.com/content/art13148.html and see all the 'precautions needed for so called safe anal sex - safer would be true not safe.
FACT: As a woman having 'sex' with a woman you cannot have natural sexual intercourse, you cannot naturally have children. Yes, you can have sexual excitement - you can stimulate to orgasm - BUT that is only a part of 'having sex' - the dead end selfish part. The rewarding and truly satisfying part is that it is not an end in itself, it can be the start of new life created by two people committed to each other and, through their love, they naturally create a new life. That is 'natural'.
Regards
Peter Stokes
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Rather pissed, I replied with:
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Again, hi Peter.
You want statistics? Alright, here's some more websites for you to read.
http://sexuality.about.com/od/sexinformation/a/anal_sex_stats.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad362.pdf
http://www.analsexyes.com/statistics.shtml
Now, where are your statistics? Also, I noticed you exaggerated the whole "80% of AIDS victims are gay men" just a little.
Also, please show me evidence of gay men hopping around to porn directors and asking them to promote it. Also, that harsh comment about AIDS being a homosexual disease is inaccurate: Needle users who share, botched blood transfusions and fluids (such as semen, saliva or blood) entering a clean body. A disease cannot attack based on sexual orientation, nor can it self replicate by a sexual act. If that was the case, AIDS might've existed a lot earlier.
Did I say it was entirely safe? No. I've never done it and choose not to. However, you're forgetting many other activities that are far more endangering if, just like anal sex, aren't carried out correctly. Knifeplay and really hardcore BDSM come to mind, but you never seem to talk about that? And I know the anus is a high risk spot if you're infected, hence why I said that ALL people partaking in said activities should play it safe to prevent it from happening.
Also, another link on the Bonobo. Bet you didn't even glimpse at the wikipedia article to find the lack of "[citation needed]" tags, though.
http://songweaver.com/info/bonobos.html
And Pete, that's highly hubricious of you to state that what I do with another woman isn't "natural". How do you feel about infertile couples who regularly have sex? What about old people who, while being past reproductive age, still manage? And do contraceptives offend you because they block a potential kid from existing? And you say this, yet you will happily bar a lesbian couple from having a child. You know what I think would be a bit more Christ-like? Adopting a kid from say, China or India, one from an impoverished orphanage with little hope for the future instead of making your wife's vagina into a clown car. Seriously, we have an overpopulation crisis in many sections of the world and it's affecting the world from Bangladesh to Beijing.
You want the dead end selfish bit? If I forced myself into marrying a guy and having kids, I'd still be a lesbian. I say selfish, because all those kids I popped out were lies. I'm not in love with that man, but I still had his kids? How much emotional trauma would this cause? I'd rather have something a lot more natural: spending the rest of my life with the woman I love. Go away, in peace.
-Kathleen
One question does arise though: Why are these typical homophobic fundies so obsessed with gay sex in the first place?