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Episode Notes: Sentinel "Deep Water"

Dec 15, 2006 22:32

I love this episode! This one is so wonderfully slashy, such a wonderful look at Jim's past and how he dealt with coming home from Peru (badly). Blair's wearing that red Henley again (yay!). Simon's awesome, etc ( Read more... )

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mab_browne December 16 2006, 07:05:32 UTC

I love this episode for all the reasons that you've so cogently outlined, and have the same problems with the timeline and the nonsense about Jim being unable to explain his back-pay. Excuse me? Army. Bureaucracy. No proper records? I don't think so ( ... )

rhiannon_jehane December 16 2006, 12:22:49 UTC

So what would Jim be likely to be doing in Vice, dressed like one of the Village People?

*giggles and points to icon*

sara_merry99 December 16 2006, 16:01:25 UTC

Heee!! That's awesome!

mab_browne December 16 2006, 18:27:43 UTC

::snorts:: Jim sure has moved on....

sara_merry99 December 16 2006, 16:00:39 UTC

Heee! I have to admit to loving you calling my rambling and squee "cogent". :) Thanks!!

This is an easy episode to love--it's so slashy for one thing and the garage scene redeems almost any amount of squicky plot and other nonsense.

Vice would be prostitution, pornography and illegal gambling, right?

Every jurisdiction organizes things differently--but those are very reasonable guesses. The Los Angeles Police Department is a reasonably good analog here because it has a Major Crimes division, Vice division and a Narcotics division.

Vice investigates anything to do with organized crime, and investigates, as you suggest, prostitution, pornography and illegal gambling. Also any illegal alcohol issues that arise.

So, VillagePeople!Jim could have been trolling for male prostitutes, he could have been investigating pornography (he looks more than a little like a gay porn star), trying to work his way up from the bottom in an organized motorcycle gang maybe.

I mean, is he staking out public toilets to arrest people for lewd and ( ... )

liz6446 December 16 2006, 19:10:31 UTC

The Los Angeles Police Department is a reasonably good analog here because it has a Major Crimes division, Vice division and a Narcotics division.

Jim's police ID says he worked in Narcotics from 1991 to 1993 and Major Crime from 1993 to the present, so it's sounds like Narcotics is part of Vice at CPD.

Also really *love* Blair perching on the arm of the sofa (and Jim, who fanon tells us is all kinds of anal, not minding at all).

I've never thought Jim was anal at all. It's obvious from "The Rig" that he has his limits when it comes to putting up with a mess in the loft, but I think the house rules stuff was just Jim joking around. Not only does Blair have his feet on the couch, but he's also bought food into the living room for Jim to eat.

I can't stand Sheila Irwin either. In the flashback, I thought she had a worse attitude than Jim did. Unfortunately we have to put up with her again in Hear No Evil.

Liz

mab_browne December 16 2006, 19:19:40 UTC

Except that Hear No Evil seems to imply that Narcotics is a sepate division in the department. Curse that continuity again. Or maybe there was a reorganisation in the PD over the timeframe involved?

liz6446 December 16 2006, 19:35:23 UTC

Or maybe it was just another data entry error. After all, this is the same ID that lists his eyes as brown instead of blue and lists his nationality as American instead of USA. :)

Liz

sara_merry99 December 16 2006, 23:15:43 UTC

Ah, yes, exactly. :)

That ID really causes more problems than it solves. Except the scar on Jim's thigh, which I consider muy intruiging.

sara_merry99 December 16 2006, 23:14:39 UTC

Honestly, how hard is it to check these things out?? Seriously!

I mean I can do the research to figure out this sort of thing--why can't the show's writers? (Even in 1996 all it would have taken is a quick call to a representative police deparment, I've always found them very nice about answering questions.)

I like your idea that there was a reorganization, that helps *some* with the timing difficulties.

sara_merry99 December 16 2006, 23:11:41 UTC

Jim's police ID says he worked in Narcotics from 1991 to 1993 and Major Crime from 1993 to the present, so it's sounds like Narcotics is part of Vice at CPD.

This is the same ID that said Jim's eyes are brown? :D Right.

Usually if the department's called Narcotics, though, they'd call it that--not switch back and forth between one name and another.

I dunno--I like mab_browne suggestion that they reorganized the PD at some point--that's entirely plausible. Either that or BadAttitude!Jim got shuffled from one department to another pretty rapidly when he was new with the PD.

patk January 19 2007, 14:29:46 UTC

Sara, I just love your episode reviews and the beautiful screencaps. Thanks so much for doing it ( ... )

sara_merry99 January 19 2007, 17:08:42 UTC

Sara, I just love your episode reviews and the beautiful screencaps. Thanks so much for doing it. :-)

Oh, thanks so much!! I really can't tell you how much fun I have doing them and then discussing the episodes with people when it's all done! So nice!

Could there also be the possibility that Jim actually worked for Vice but was indeed a loan from Narcotics and his ID showed the department where he was recorded? Financial reasons?

Oh, now that's an interesting idea too. Either of those would work as an explanation. There's nothing in an episode that says he worked for Narcotics, right, just that prop ID? Or is my memory bad. I like that explanation. :)

I'd like to see a short story that shows desperate Jim, trying for *ages* to get the personnel department to change his ID to the correct dates.

OMG! I love this idea!! This would be such a fun story! :) ::pokes:: Gonna write it?? ::bats eyelashes:: Heee!

patk January 19 2007, 18:31:21 UTC

>> There's nothing in an episode that says he worked for Narcotics, right, just that prop ID?<<

I don't think so. We know from "Black or White" that he worked patrol for a year and was partnered with Candace during this time and we know he worked in Vice because Simon said so in "Deep Water" when Jim came to MC as a new member.

And writing the Sentinel/bureaucracy battle, me? *g* No way . I have my hands full with creating at least semi-coherent comments. *g* So, it's free and up for grabs. Go for it. ;-)

PatK
:-)

sara_merry99 January 19 2007, 19:56:17 UTC

We know from "Black or White" that he worked patrol for a year and was partnered with Candace during this time and we know he worked in Vice because Simon said so in "Deep Water" when Jim came to MC as a new member.

That year with Candace is quite a problem for his timeline too, but it's at least completely comprehensible, and he's lucky it wasn't more than just a year.

And writing the Sentinel/bureaucracy battle, me? *g* No way . I have my hands full with creating at least semi-coherent comments. *g* So, it's free and up for grabs. Go for it. ;-)

I'm not so good with the humor, actually. When I write humor it's mostly by accident, so maybe you need to post the bunny on ts_talk with a "free to a good home" sign. :)

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