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Jul 07, 2006 00:06

So, saw Dead Man's Chest. Am now officially torn between signing up at ot3_100 for Jack/Will/Elizabeth or Jack/Will/Norrington. Of course, you're all required to stop me from doing either.

But, anyway, on to spoiler-packed thoughts, all safely behind the cut, and all wonderfully chaotic. I write as memories come back to me.

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He cut out him heart serizawa3000 July 11 2006, 18:00:02 UTC
er... it's the only Bill Nighy icon I have until maybe I get me some Davy Jones iconage...

From what I read, Davy Jones (er... Hey, hey, we're the Monkees!) was totally CGI (Bill Nighy referred to the motion-capture suit he had to wear as "gray pajamas" and not a few of the actors who played his crew were similarly attired. Hopefully this means the DVD will have footage of Nighy in his mo-cap pjs.). Which makes me wonder whether basically he had to make like Andy Serkis. He's there for reference and for the actors to play against, then he's not, and then he's in a blue room for however long... I was fooled. Those closeups... I do wonder if Nighy wore colored contacts, maybe, because no one's eyes are that blue.

I like that Davy Jones is a different sort of villain. He's not Barbossa with tentacles. Because he's heartless. Not as given to emotions, or baser desires than Barbossa... colder... more cruel. But still, I also like that Jones isn't really a total monster (look at his face when Sparrow's reminding him of the whole lost love thing). Barbossa and Davy Jones are bad guys, but there's still something in them that makes you feel for them. A weird bit of me likes redemption, and wonders whether Jones might somehow undergo changes like Norrington... whether we might see a more human Jones. Maybe he gets his heart back... And of course, what's gonna happen when Barbossa and Jones meet?

There's quite a few folk stories and fairy tales with giants, evil wizards, and dragons who can't be killed because they don't keep their hearts in their bodies. They hide them away, usually someplace remote, possibly watched over by monstrous guardians... One of the neater variations on this was "The Heartless Giant" from Jim Henson's Storyteller series... there was this bit of narration I keep thinking of...

"He hid away his heart so he wouldn't have to deal with those giant-sized feelings."

Did you notice how two tentacles on the back of Jones's head gripped onto his hat as the Flying Dutchman submerged?

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Re: He cut out him heart salmon_pink July 11 2006, 18:17:36 UTC
Really? Awesome! I'd been avoiding all potential spoilers, so I hadn't read any interviews with the cast before I saw it, and I've only just started going back through last month's movie magazines to read the articles, so I had no idea about the special effects. If it was a Gollum effort, well, I'm desperately impressed. And Nighy must be used to contacts after Underworld, weren't his eyes white or an incredibly pale blue in that film?

You've hit the nail on the head as to why I love Jones, and why he's special kind of villain. There's a motivation for his actions, rather than him just prancing around being evil for the sake of it. There's so much mystery there, such potential, and I do want him to have some sense of redemption, or at least a sense of emotional closure. I don't just want him defeated in the way I was rooting for the good guys against Barbossa. And, yeah, Barbossa meeting Jones is going to be amazing.

And I hadn't noticed the tentacles clutching the hat! That has me squeeing like crazy. Damn, I'm not going to see it again until next week, but I'll have to look out for it. :D

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because I'm geeky that way serizawa3000 July 12 2006, 18:29:18 UTC
Actually I found out (thanks to Wikipedia... OH NOES!) most of Nighy's mo-cap work was on the set. No blue screen, or green screen or whatever. So he was in the gray pjs on set... And he had dots all over his face, too (which would explain Jones's surprising expressiveness)...

What was also interesting was that they decided to combine Davy Jones (possibly sailor-speak for "Devil Jonah") with the legend of The Flying Dutchman. The story goes that the captain of the ship in question found himself in a becalmed sea, and dared to ask the Devil for a wind... so now he sails the sea forever... Added to that were bits about how the captain is allowed to go on land every ten years, a lost love, etc. Wagner did an opera about the whole thing.

Methinks it might have been asking too much for The Flying Dutchman to actually fly... :)

And I must admit that the bit where Pintel and Ragetti argue about the pronunciation of "Kraken" was for real geek types like me... the screenwriters did their homework...

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