The most infamous Trees show ever
Holy crap, this post is going to take so long to hunt and peck on Goddamn Tablet. (That's its name.) But by cracky, I want to type it!
This is a personal story related to Nirvana and some local friends and how Kurt Cobain shit all over Dallas, my home, and how I don't know what to do with my anger over it.
Best thing is this incident happened 25 years ago, so there's nothing to be done about it, yay! Why am I getting angry over the past? Because the video footage still exists.
A little background: I've been feeling really nostalgic lately and been looking at old videos of my Dallas/Ft Worth scene days. Some of you haven't been on my friends list long enough to have seen my links to them, so let me explain - when I was 15-16 (1988-89), my sister and I and our friend Shelly decided we wanted to become a part of the local music scene, especially the heavy metal/thrash scene because we all really enjoy that style of music. (I know I still love it, anyway.) The scene was really growing and thriving at that time. None of us could play an instrument with any skill, but we did have a video camera. Cue us trooping on down to some of the local clubs to ask various bands if they wanted to be filmed. Shelly's dad was friends with the producer of a local cable access show called "Dallas Music Videos," and if our stuff was good enough, we could get these local bands on DMV. As you can imagine, this was all pretty exciting to a bunch of teens from the suburbs. I did interviews with the bands most of the time, and Dee and Shelly filmed everything.
The best part about this besides seeing great bands play was how the bands and other associates treated us. I was bullied in school relentlessly from about third grade through eighth for various reasons. I wanted a place where I belonged. We didn't look like your typical metal chicks, but were fully accepted anyway. The bands treated us like absolute gold. It wasn't just because we put them on tv, either; there was real friendship there and no awkward feelings of 'Do we belong here?'. Of course, they were grateful for the promotion and such that our videos offered to them, and they always let us know. I rarely felt anything but respected and liked when we made our way down there to the clubs.
So, I started watching old videos, and I came upon the clip from Nirvana's show at Trees in Dallas from October 1991. This was when Nirvana were just starting to become huge. Trees was not a big enough club to hold Nirvana at the time, but no one knew that until it was too late. As you can see, the crowd was pretty out of control. About 10 minutes before this happened, Kurt got angry that there were problems with the sound and threw a crybaby rock star fit and karate chopped the monitor board several times with his guitar, destroying it. This board was worth $4,500. The bouncer you see in this video was good friends and worked with the sound guy who owned this board. So what happened next was inevitable.
We did not film this. My sister went off to college in '89 and slowly stopped filming bands. People always refer to this as the fight Kurt Cobain had with that bouncer at Trees. "That bouncer" has a name. It's Turner, and Kurt could've killed him. People say Kurt was just defending himself because Turner was messing with him and pulling his hair, but what he did was like seeing a mosquito on your arm and using a gun to kill it. It was serious overkill. He opened up Turner's head and made him bleed so profusely that he needed 13 staples. His skin started turning blue. The quality of the video isn't good enough for you to see all the blood, but there was a lot of it. At least Krist cared. Kurt clearly didn't.
Turner was not just a bouncer. During the mid to late '80s, he was the lead singer of Talon, probably the most popular metal/thrash band in the D/FW area (next to bands that got signed, like Rigor Mortis and Pantera). They should have been signed and become huge, but it just never happened. Later, they changed their name to Sedition because another band from Germany had copyrighted Talon. Anyway, we filmed and interviewed them multiple times. Always treated us like platinum. I thought of Turner as this humongous teddy bear with fists of iron. If you were male and you pissed him off, yeah, he would probably kick your ass, but I never felt threatened around him. I'm not saying he was a perfect little angel; he drank a lot and used his size to his advantage in a fight. I mean, Kurt was a skinny little thing compared to Turner, but as far as I'm concerned, Kurt deserved that punch in the face.
My favorite parts of that video are you can actually see Turner's mind shift between, "I'm gonna mess with this little fucker," to "I'm gonna kick this little fucker's ass!" He drags Kurt back on stage and is just ready to go. The other part is when Dave jumps the drumset like a stallion and actually tries to hold Turner back. Yeah, he was a really skinny dude compared to, well, anybody back then, but he was ready to defend Kurt. The guy had some loyal friends.
I also chuckle over the guy who's half the size of Turner who bear hugs him in an effort to stop him from beating up Kurt. It just looks hilarious.
Here's the entire concert. Around the 30 minute mark, Kurt throws his tantrum. It's dark so you can't see it, but Kurt hit and broke someone's hand when he destroyed the board. I'm not sure Nirvana ever admitted to that, but my local friends who were there swear it happened, and I believe them.
After Kurt breaks the board, you see Turner go over there and talk to the guy who owns it. Then Turner gives Kurt an angry little shove on his way by him. There's no way Kurt didn't know people were mad at him at this point.
I went looking for info on whose hand got broken that night and the articles I read made me think it might be Russell, the sound engineer at Trees, and that's when I REALLY got mad.
Russell was one of those guys who was everpresent on the scene. He did sound work and acted as a stagehand at many clubs. We saw him everywhere, all the time. And Russell helped us as well as the bands. In fact, there were many times when he *physically protected* us. I have been only five feet tall, maybe 5'1" since I was a teenager, and I ain't striking fear in the hearts of nobody - I look like a fluffy little marshmallow. And it seems like Russell could see that. He didn't say go home little girl, you don't belong here, he instead looked after me to make sure I didn't get hurt. Sometimes the mosh pit would get too big or things would get out of hand, somebody was too drunk or too rowdy, and Russell would act as a buffer, bouncing them back into the fray while I was behind him, out of harm's way. That really means something. He was there at the Circle Jerks concert the night Shelly almost got beat up by a bunch of chilibowl nazi skinhead girls, and he diffused the situation to help Shelly get out of it before she really got hurt. In the last few hours of the Pagan Festival, when the crowd got really big and really packed in there, I needed a safe place to stand where I could be near my sister in case she needed something while filming. My good friend from childhood, Tracey, was visiting and she needed a place to stand nearby too. Russell found it for us - on the side of the stage. You can see him and Tracey near the huge speakers, in the documentary we made about the festival. Tracey's the blonde in the skirt you can see headbanging and fist pumping to the side of Morbid Scream and Talon. Russell's next to her, and I'm behind them, in the dark (so you can't see me). I never forgot how kind he was to us, and apparently, it means a great deal to me. I didn't realize how much til now.
And you, Kurt Cobain, YOU break his hand? YOU think you're so untouchable that you can physically hurt my people and just shrug over it like it doesn't matter?? Who the HELL do you think you are???
Now, I'm not sure if it was Russell whose hand got broken; it may have been Nirvana's own sound tech. (Still trying to confirm it.) That's pretty bad too, though.
Other things that got me so riled up about this - in the video of the whole concert, you can tell that Kurt knows that people are pissed at him for breaking the monitor board, and what does he do? He gets sarcastic and starts mocking everyone by trying to stir up the already overwrought crowd. The fuck? He asked the bouncers to keep the kids off the stage because they were knocking stuff over, and then he encourages them, mockingly, to get on the stage? GRRRRRR! Really, do you think Kurt jumped into the crowd right in front of Turner because he thought Turner liked him at that moment, or because he was trying to taunt him? What did Kurt expect was going to happen?
Also, people from the club said Kurt was so drugged up that night that they were concerned he wouldn't be able to play. Arrrrrrrgh, you don't DO that! Another thing, in the Michael Azerrad book about Nirvana, he wrote about the incident like Turner was this stupid redneck who deserved to be bashed in the head and almost killed and Kurt was this poor, innocent victim. People characterize it that way in YouTube comments too, shooting their mouths off in blind loyalty to Kurt. Makes me ragey! It's like they don't realize that the bouncer is a person and he has actual friends.
If you're a Nirvana fan who wandered in here and I've offended you, I am sorry. I love Nirvana too, but Kurt behaved very badly that night. I don't hate Kurt for this, I'm just mad at him for what he did. For the record, Nirvana did wind up paying for the monitor board and Turner's medical bills.
Also for the record, I am not defending Turner and Russell because I have/had any romantic feelings for either of them. I know some people would think that way, but nah. They're just friends.
If you're still confused how I could defend Turner over Kurt, just try to understand this: Look at Turner. You get really good looks at him in both videos linked below. Big biker-looking dude who exudes presence and heavy metal. Now look at me (I do all the interviews in the Pagan Festival documentary, and I'm the one going, "Hello Shelly, hello Shelly!") - kinda geeky, pudgy, short, glasses. Now know that this man has NEVER talked down to me. He always treated me with respect and as an equal. That's pretty amazing when you consider our differences. I mean, if I was in a band and a bunch of teenage girls from the suburbs came up to me and said they could put me on TV, I'm not sure I would have taken them so seriously. I'm simply not going to make myself hate Turner as an act of misplaced loyalty to Kurt. Turner doesn't deserve that.
A perfect example of how Turner treated me as an equal happened one Saturday or Sunday morning the night after a show when Turner called our house and I answered the phone. I don't remember what he wanted; it probably had something to do with an upcoming show or one of the shows we taped. What I remember is that Turner didn't go oh, I'll call back when I can talk to your older sister. He talked to me. Second thing I remember is he didn't edit his language because he was talking to a "little girl." Like, every third word was some form of "fuck." XD Fuck, fucking, motherfucker... I am not squeamish about cussing, but even I was left going DAYUUUUUMMMM...
Edit: I have found a way to make the "Turner punches Kurt" video really funny. Add hilarious cartoon sound effects!
Anyway, have some D/FW scene.
This is most of an episode of "Dallas Music Videos." It's actually from July 20, 1988. There's Noyse Fludd, never worked with them, didn't know them. The guy in the middle is kinda cute. Then my sister Dee and Shelly do the Local Haps. They introduce a little mockumentary we made about 'What is moshing vs slam dancing'? It's pretty funny. Paul from Agony Column is cuuuute! Rich from Agony Column gets damn philosophical about it. He talked so long my arm got tired from holding the microphone. XD Turner's in this. The stuff he says about punching people in the pit is a joke; I never saw him go in a pit ever because he knew if he did, he'd just bowl everybody over. He's still a huge dude. I don't know, maybe there was some time when he moshed, but I never saw it, and I went to a lot of shows. Maybe it was before Talon was formed? Either way, this interview with him is hilarious.
The one mosh pit we put in this was also hilarious. There was this one guy in there who was really drunk and you can see him trying to dance and getting knocked down and stuff and then his wife gets in there and is just clapping and dancing and everybody's trying to avoid hurting her while she moves around the pit and the whole thing makes me laugh. They really should have put a bounce house floor in all the metal clubs so moshing would be fun for everyone, LOL!
Then Jimi from Morbid Scream sums it all up for us: moshing is a metal term for slam dancing. Problem solved. :D
I am trying very very hard to remember why we thanked Deadly Force at the end of this video and I just can't remember. I know they did something that went above and beyond that night, but what it was, I have no idea. In fact, I think it was at least three or four nice somethings! They kinda sucked and were too rednecky for me, and they had a beef with Scum of the Earth (loooong story) and I loved the Scums, but I know they did something nice for us to the point that even I was insisting that yes, we had to thank them. Wish I could remember what it was!
Then there's Rigor Mortis. We filmed them once, I thought they kinda sucked, but they were friends with everyone else and were important to the scene.
And then there's Talon. Turner's a pretty intense guy. You'll either find him to be a really funny character like I did or you'll run screaming. They had an awesome song about Charles Manson called "Summer of Hate" which I just love; it's so demented. Uses actual quotes from Manson and Turner's crazy, maniacal laughter. One of the most badass metal songs ever written. The producer of DMV, Kathy Blaylock, made them a great video that uses our footage for the credits. Like I said, laugh or run screaming. When Turner is thanking people and he says, "And these three here," he's pointing to us, the Zoom girls. You then hear me and my sister go, "Zoom! Zoom!" :D That was our name.
Shit, I remember we wanted to create an intro for Zoom so that when our videos were shown, we had an intro like Ari had for Video Free Burro. We asked Talon to write an original song for it, and Turner said, "Hell yeah, sure!" But we could never get it together to create the video part of the intro. We had several clips that we definitely wanted to use, but... When I think about it, it makes me wish we had gotten our shit together, because that would have been badass. I wonder what the Talon song would have been like???!
Our crowning jewel, the Pagan Fest documentary.
To think we were a trio of teens and we made this is pretty amazing. We ran around all day getting interviews and release forms and at least one song from every band, and as much entertaining filler as we could, and this was our creative product. It was nominated for a local cable access award! We lost to a knitting show. XD It doesn't even matter now.
All that stuff about 'pagan' and what it means, it was all a big joke. We didn't know anything about paganism back then.
Sorry if I broke anybody's eardrums with all the heavy metal videos. 😃 It always will be my favorite style of music.
It's doubtful I will be able to participate in this year's Spn Reversebang since I can't make complex, multi-layered art without the laptop. I may sign up as a writer, though!
I'm going to leave this public for a while so my Yuletide writer can see it. Probably will friends lock it afterwards.
This is a personal story related to Nirvana and some local friends and how Kurt Cobain shit all over Dallas, my home, and how I don't know what to do with my anger over it.
Best thing is this incident happened 25 years ago, so there's nothing to be done about it, yay! Why am I getting angry over the past? Because the video footage still exists.
A little background: I've been feeling really nostalgic lately and been looking at old videos of my Dallas/Ft Worth scene days. Some of you haven't been on my friends list long enough to have seen my links to them, so let me explain - when I was 15-16 (1988-89), my sister and I and our friend Shelly decided we wanted to become a part of the local music scene, especially the heavy metal/thrash scene because we all really enjoy that style of music. (I know I still love it, anyway.) The scene was really growing and thriving at that time. None of us could play an instrument with any skill, but we did have a video camera. Cue us trooping on down to some of the local clubs to ask various bands if they wanted to be filmed. Shelly's dad was friends with the producer of a local cable access show called "Dallas Music Videos," and if our stuff was good enough, we could get these local bands on DMV. As you can imagine, this was all pretty exciting to a bunch of teens from the suburbs. I did interviews with the bands most of the time, and Dee and Shelly filmed everything.
The best part about this besides seeing great bands play was how the bands and other associates treated us. I was bullied in school relentlessly from about third grade through eighth for various reasons. I wanted a place where I belonged. We didn't look like your typical metal chicks, but were fully accepted anyway. The bands treated us like absolute gold. It wasn't just because we put them on tv, either; there was real friendship there and no awkward feelings of 'Do we belong here?'. Of course, they were grateful for the promotion and such that our videos offered to them, and they always let us know. I rarely felt anything but respected and liked when we made our way down there to the clubs.
So, I started watching old videos, and I came upon the clip from Nirvana's show at Trees in Dallas from October 1991. This was when Nirvana were just starting to become huge. Trees was not a big enough club to hold Nirvana at the time, but no one knew that until it was too late. As you can see, the crowd was pretty out of control. About 10 minutes before this happened, Kurt got angry that there were problems with the sound and threw a crybaby rock star fit and karate chopped the monitor board several times with his guitar, destroying it. This board was worth $4,500. The bouncer you see in this video was good friends and worked with the sound guy who owned this board. So what happened next was inevitable.
Click to viewWe did not film this. My sister went off to college in '89 and slowly stopped filming bands. People always refer to this as the fight Kurt Cobain had with that bouncer at Trees. "That bouncer" has a name. It's Turner, and Kurt could've killed him. People say Kurt was just defending himself because Turner was messing with him and pulling his hair, but what he did was like seeing a mosquito on your arm and using a gun to kill it. It was serious overkill. He opened up Turner's head and made him bleed so profusely that he needed 13 staples. His skin started turning blue. The quality of the video isn't good enough for you to see all the blood, but there was a lot of it. At least Krist cared. Kurt clearly didn't.
Turner was not just a bouncer. During the mid to late '80s, he was the lead singer of Talon, probably the most popular metal/thrash band in the D/FW area (next to bands that got signed, like Rigor Mortis and Pantera). They should have been signed and become huge, but it just never happened. Later, they changed their name to Sedition because another band from Germany had copyrighted Talon. Anyway, we filmed and interviewed them multiple times. Always treated us like platinum. I thought of Turner as this humongous teddy bear with fists of iron. If you were male and you pissed him off, yeah, he would probably kick your ass, but I never felt threatened around him. I'm not saying he was a perfect little angel; he drank a lot and used his size to his advantage in a fight. I mean, Kurt was a skinny little thing compared to Turner, but as far as I'm concerned, Kurt deserved that punch in the face.
My favorite parts of that video are you can actually see Turner's mind shift between, "I'm gonna mess with this little fucker," to "I'm gonna kick this little fucker's ass!" He drags Kurt back on stage and is just ready to go. The other part is when Dave jumps the drumset like a stallion and actually tries to hold Turner back. Yeah, he was a really skinny dude compared to, well, anybody back then, but he was ready to defend Kurt. The guy had some loyal friends.
I also chuckle over the guy who's half the size of Turner who bear hugs him in an effort to stop him from beating up Kurt. It just looks hilarious.
Here's the entire concert. Around the 30 minute mark, Kurt throws his tantrum. It's dark so you can't see it, but Kurt hit and broke someone's hand when he destroyed the board. I'm not sure Nirvana ever admitted to that, but my local friends who were there swear it happened, and I believe them.
After Kurt breaks the board, you see Turner go over there and talk to the guy who owns it. Then Turner gives Kurt an angry little shove on his way by him. There's no way Kurt didn't know people were mad at him at this point.
I went looking for info on whose hand got broken that night and the articles I read made me think it might be Russell, the sound engineer at Trees, and that's when I REALLY got mad.
Russell was one of those guys who was everpresent on the scene. He did sound work and acted as a stagehand at many clubs. We saw him everywhere, all the time. And Russell helped us as well as the bands. In fact, there were many times when he *physically protected* us. I have been only five feet tall, maybe 5'1" since I was a teenager, and I ain't striking fear in the hearts of nobody - I look like a fluffy little marshmallow. And it seems like Russell could see that. He didn't say go home little girl, you don't belong here, he instead looked after me to make sure I didn't get hurt. Sometimes the mosh pit would get too big or things would get out of hand, somebody was too drunk or too rowdy, and Russell would act as a buffer, bouncing them back into the fray while I was behind him, out of harm's way. That really means something. He was there at the Circle Jerks concert the night Shelly almost got beat up by a bunch of chilibowl nazi skinhead girls, and he diffused the situation to help Shelly get out of it before she really got hurt. In the last few hours of the Pagan Festival, when the crowd got really big and really packed in there, I needed a safe place to stand where I could be near my sister in case she needed something while filming. My good friend from childhood, Tracey, was visiting and she needed a place to stand nearby too. Russell found it for us - on the side of the stage. You can see him and Tracey near the huge speakers, in the documentary we made about the festival. Tracey's the blonde in the skirt you can see headbanging and fist pumping to the side of Morbid Scream and Talon. Russell's next to her, and I'm behind them, in the dark (so you can't see me). I never forgot how kind he was to us, and apparently, it means a great deal to me. I didn't realize how much til now.
And you, Kurt Cobain, YOU break his hand? YOU think you're so untouchable that you can physically hurt my people and just shrug over it like it doesn't matter?? Who the HELL do you think you are???
Now, I'm not sure if it was Russell whose hand got broken; it may have been Nirvana's own sound tech. (Still trying to confirm it.) That's pretty bad too, though.
Other things that got me so riled up about this - in the video of the whole concert, you can tell that Kurt knows that people are pissed at him for breaking the monitor board, and what does he do? He gets sarcastic and starts mocking everyone by trying to stir up the already overwrought crowd. The fuck? He asked the bouncers to keep the kids off the stage because they were knocking stuff over, and then he encourages them, mockingly, to get on the stage? GRRRRRR! Really, do you think Kurt jumped into the crowd right in front of Turner because he thought Turner liked him at that moment, or because he was trying to taunt him? What did Kurt expect was going to happen?
Also, people from the club said Kurt was so drugged up that night that they were concerned he wouldn't be able to play. Arrrrrrrgh, you don't DO that! Another thing, in the Michael Azerrad book about Nirvana, he wrote about the incident like Turner was this stupid redneck who deserved to be bashed in the head and almost killed and Kurt was this poor, innocent victim. People characterize it that way in YouTube comments too, shooting their mouths off in blind loyalty to Kurt. Makes me ragey! It's like they don't realize that the bouncer is a person and he has actual friends.
If you're a Nirvana fan who wandered in here and I've offended you, I am sorry. I love Nirvana too, but Kurt behaved very badly that night. I don't hate Kurt for this, I'm just mad at him for what he did. For the record, Nirvana did wind up paying for the monitor board and Turner's medical bills.
Also for the record, I am not defending Turner and Russell because I have/had any romantic feelings for either of them. I know some people would think that way, but nah. They're just friends.
If you're still confused how I could defend Turner over Kurt, just try to understand this: Look at Turner. You get really good looks at him in both videos linked below. Big biker-looking dude who exudes presence and heavy metal. Now look at me (I do all the interviews in the Pagan Festival documentary, and I'm the one going, "Hello Shelly, hello Shelly!") - kinda geeky, pudgy, short, glasses. Now know that this man has NEVER talked down to me. He always treated me with respect and as an equal. That's pretty amazing when you consider our differences. I mean, if I was in a band and a bunch of teenage girls from the suburbs came up to me and said they could put me on TV, I'm not sure I would have taken them so seriously. I'm simply not going to make myself hate Turner as an act of misplaced loyalty to Kurt. Turner doesn't deserve that.
A perfect example of how Turner treated me as an equal happened one Saturday or Sunday morning the night after a show when Turner called our house and I answered the phone. I don't remember what he wanted; it probably had something to do with an upcoming show or one of the shows we taped. What I remember is that Turner didn't go oh, I'll call back when I can talk to your older sister. He talked to me. Second thing I remember is he didn't edit his language because he was talking to a "little girl." Like, every third word was some form of "fuck." XD Fuck, fucking, motherfucker... I am not squeamish about cussing, but even I was left going DAYUUUUUMMMM...
Edit: I have found a way to make the "Turner punches Kurt" video really funny. Add hilarious cartoon sound effects!
Anyway, have some D/FW scene.
This is most of an episode of "Dallas Music Videos." It's actually from July 20, 1988. There's Noyse Fludd, never worked with them, didn't know them. The guy in the middle is kinda cute. Then my sister Dee and Shelly do the Local Haps. They introduce a little mockumentary we made about 'What is moshing vs slam dancing'? It's pretty funny. Paul from Agony Column is cuuuute! Rich from Agony Column gets damn philosophical about it. He talked so long my arm got tired from holding the microphone. XD Turner's in this. The stuff he says about punching people in the pit is a joke; I never saw him go in a pit ever because he knew if he did, he'd just bowl everybody over. He's still a huge dude. I don't know, maybe there was some time when he moshed, but I never saw it, and I went to a lot of shows. Maybe it was before Talon was formed? Either way, this interview with him is hilarious.
The one mosh pit we put in this was also hilarious. There was this one guy in there who was really drunk and you can see him trying to dance and getting knocked down and stuff and then his wife gets in there and is just clapping and dancing and everybody's trying to avoid hurting her while she moves around the pit and the whole thing makes me laugh. They really should have put a bounce house floor in all the metal clubs so moshing would be fun for everyone, LOL!
Then Jimi from Morbid Scream sums it all up for us: moshing is a metal term for slam dancing. Problem solved. :D
I am trying very very hard to remember why we thanked Deadly Force at the end of this video and I just can't remember. I know they did something that went above and beyond that night, but what it was, I have no idea. In fact, I think it was at least three or four nice somethings! They kinda sucked and were too rednecky for me, and they had a beef with Scum of the Earth (loooong story) and I loved the Scums, but I know they did something nice for us to the point that even I was insisting that yes, we had to thank them. Wish I could remember what it was!
Then there's Rigor Mortis. We filmed them once, I thought they kinda sucked, but they were friends with everyone else and were important to the scene.
And then there's Talon. Turner's a pretty intense guy. You'll either find him to be a really funny character like I did or you'll run screaming. They had an awesome song about Charles Manson called "Summer of Hate" which I just love; it's so demented. Uses actual quotes from Manson and Turner's crazy, maniacal laughter. One of the most badass metal songs ever written. The producer of DMV, Kathy Blaylock, made them a great video that uses our footage for the credits. Like I said, laugh or run screaming. When Turner is thanking people and he says, "And these three here," he's pointing to us, the Zoom girls. You then hear me and my sister go, "Zoom! Zoom!" :D That was our name.
Shit, I remember we wanted to create an intro for Zoom so that when our videos were shown, we had an intro like Ari had for Video Free Burro. We asked Talon to write an original song for it, and Turner said, "Hell yeah, sure!" But we could never get it together to create the video part of the intro. We had several clips that we definitely wanted to use, but... When I think about it, it makes me wish we had gotten our shit together, because that would have been badass. I wonder what the Talon song would have been like???!
Our crowning jewel, the Pagan Fest documentary.
To think we were a trio of teens and we made this is pretty amazing. We ran around all day getting interviews and release forms and at least one song from every band, and as much entertaining filler as we could, and this was our creative product. It was nominated for a local cable access award! We lost to a knitting show. XD It doesn't even matter now.
All that stuff about 'pagan' and what it means, it was all a big joke. We didn't know anything about paganism back then.
Sorry if I broke anybody's eardrums with all the heavy metal videos. 😃 It always will be my favorite style of music.
It's doubtful I will be able to participate in this year's Spn Reversebang since I can't make complex, multi-layered art without the laptop. I may sign up as a writer, though!
I'm going to leave this public for a while so my Yuletide writer can see it. Probably will friends lock it afterwards.