Comments | sages_of_chaos: Fave animals, species extinction, and tricky moral issues

arctic_kawaii in sages_of_chaos

Fave animals, species extinction, and tricky moral issues

Aug 21, 2008 22:06

Little blue-haired boy here, with a blue fuzzy cap on despite the hot weather, and a blue fire lizard curled up on the cap and watching people ( Read more... )

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[text] star_core August 22 2008, 02:54:03 UTC

All of them. Every kind of plant and animal.

And take the rare ones too.

Re: [text] arctic_kawaii August 22 2008, 04:22:19 UTC

I don't know if we'll have the right climate for all of them. Mars is kind of small and has some funny topography.

Re: [text] star_core August 22 2008, 13:18:49 UTC

Oh. Mars.

You still need all the species from each environment on Earth.

Re: [text] arctic_kawaii August 23 2008, 06:26:47 UTC

It wouldn't be doing them much good to import a creature that wouldn't have the right habitat to survive in. I mean, what if the whole planet's subarctic and we import tropical animals? They'd die. Or if it ended up hot and we tried to bring in polar animals that needed tundra? Again, they'd die.

We don't need every single animal on Earth. We need to make a stable artificial ecosystem with complete food chains. It's too much to try to push to make the place a carbon copy of Earth. It's going to have differences, I know it will. The geology's too different and too young to even have some kinds of habitat at all.

And right now, we're not ruling out animals from other worlds besides Earth, either. I mean, Pernese Fire lizards are already on the list, but they've adapted easily enough to eating fish and stuff from Earth, so that doesn't mean we have to track down a Pern and grab samples of every lifeform on their coasts.

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qcontinuum August 25 2008, 15:59:32 UTC

If the animal is endangered on its home planet, take all of that kind. Endangered species are generally endangered for a reason. You leave some behind because you don't want to deprive the planet *that's killing them off* of them, and they're inevitably going to die. You're better off maximizing your genetic variety by dragging them *all* to a new habitat. The old planet was going to lose them all sooner or later anyway ( ... )

arctic_kawaii August 25 2008, 16:41:21 UTC

Ice nods at that. "And it's not like we won't know if they're going to do the same stupid things the humans on our Earth did. All we'd have to do is poke around that universe and check the news. And I'd really meant just taking one or two from each version of an Earth so they wouldn't be missed, and we'd still end up with as many as we needed for a stable gene pool. We already know the portals for about twenty Earths other than our own, and we're looking for others."

"I don't know of anything on the wish lists yet that eats just mosquitos, but we plan to carefully research everything we bring and make sure we have an acceptable food chain and climate ready."

"We have built-in teleporters, but those aren't safe for organics. We were going to use the PINPoints that get left around the Nexus. It wouldn't be hard to go back to any place we had to as long as we had teleport coordinates."

((Heheh! Q! Given who and what your pup is, if you want to nudge me for anything he'd know about lil Ice there, or the whole situation, I'm on AIM at

qcontinuum August 27 2008, 00:41:45 UTC

Okay, I've done a bit of research into your little problem, and I think you're asking the wrong questions ( ... )

arctic_kawaii August 28 2008, 10:30:23 UTC

Ice, for his part, listens very carefully, with some nodding. He can't help finding it a bit odd that someone would know so much about the situation when he's just met them, but brushes it off as a Nexus Thing for now. After all, most of them have heard of the video games from some Earths were they were fictional. For all he knew, colonizing Mars was a book somewhere ( ... )