Don't get me started about the whole 150,000 years ago plot point! That made me SO ANGRY because I've researched a lot in human prehistory and there is no way that anything but the DNA would have survived from then given what we've seen in the domestication of plants and animals (e.g. none until the later Neolithic).
Sending the fleet to 150,000 years before the present-day just turns everyone's tale there into such a pointless tragedy that it makes me angry. RDM is an idiot who thought it would be cool to make Hera the genetic ancestor of all mankind but didn't have enough wisdom to know what that would do to the culture she represented.
It's all quite, quite infuriating. Why not put them in Mesopotamia circa 10,000 BCE, just as the locals were transitioning to an agricultural society? THey'd still have lost a lot of know-how, but at least the canon of the show wouldn't lead a viewer to the depressing idea that everybody except Hera died of starvation, or got chomped by a sabre-toothed tiger, or killed by the indigenous inhabitants who were much better adapted to living in the Pleistocene than a bunch of spacefarers. Grrrrr.
Yes, yes, yes! I mean, we know from the archaeological record that Gaius, despite all of his farming expertise, made not a dent in the work of domesticating grains if he was in our past, 150,000 years ago. And Lee's hope to give them the "best of us" boils down to Hera's genes. *sigh*
That's the part that makes me most grumpy about the show. (Sorry, SB, for hijacking your comments, here!)
You know, if Lee wanted to give the Pleistocene era indigenous humans the "best of us", he could've given them penicillin! And metalworking, and the combustion engine, and genetic engineering to quickly modify wild species enough that they could become domesticable crops. But seriously, I bet they would've been a big hit if they'd brought their techie (and particularly medical) know-how. What was teh point of Cottle not being allowed to go on the Mission to Re-re-re-re-kidnap Hera because they couldn't spare a doctor, if they were planning on abandoning all his medical knowledge anyway
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I hear you about the 10K years. All in all, I thought it was a "cute" idea but not one that stands up to scientific scrutiny (glaciation, domestication of plants and animals, etc. all screw up the timing). 10K could have been made to work very easily, but then he couldn't have thrown us the Hera as Mitochondrial Eve bone ;)
Certainly have to take this with a wink and a grin, and I'm willing to do that in part because so much of the science of BSG (and star trek etc) have to be taken with a wink and a grin.
Edit: *giggle* Ancarett and I are arguing the same point really - but I just smiled and shook my head and she got angry. Oh we fans certainly have different responses.
You can ask lyssie, the timeline just KEELED me to the point I was trying to get Ron to answer questions about it on Skiffy.
At one point they planned on the Galactica crashing into earth and when jumped to present day we would see an archaeological excavation someone in central or south America picking up the ship on underground sonar.
I have retconned in my head it was 10,000bc...and hey, Lee's descendants go on to found Greece and name stuff after Kara. :) Although pre-Greek culture doesn't surface before 5-6000K BC. Yeah, I got really upset over all of this last week.
You can ask lyssie, the timeline just KEELED me to the point I was trying to get Ron to answer questions about it on Skiffy.
Did he? I vaguely remember skimming that thread, but I don't remember it being addressed. I'd incredibly interested to know the reasoning, even if it might make want to throw rocks at him. ;)
I will say this in defense of that idea...(gasp!!!)...
It DID give us the possibility for imagining Chief's heroic spear fight with a man-eating 15 foot Giant Sloth... Oh, and for the ladies, Helo and Lee in loincloths.
to be honest? I was so annoyed by the whole "B/c God said so" wash to everything that my brain has refused to compute the 150K thing. The whole idea is so ridiculous to me that I just rolled my eyes. I mean, what about the Raptors that didn't go into the sun? and Adama's viper? so yeah. I just rolled my eyes at the blatant impossible factor of that scenario.
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Sending the fleet to 150,000 years before the present-day just turns everyone's tale there into such a pointless tragedy that it makes me angry. RDM is an idiot who thought it would be cool to make Hera the genetic ancestor of all mankind but didn't have enough wisdom to know what that would do to the culture she represented.
*sigh*
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That's the part that makes me most grumpy about the show. (Sorry, SB, for hijacking your comments, here!)
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Certainly have to take this with a wink and a grin, and I'm willing to do that in part because so much of the science of BSG (and star trek etc) have to be taken with a wink and a grin.
Edit: *giggle* Ancarett and I are arguing the same point really - but I just smiled and shook my head and she got angry. Oh we fans certainly have different responses.
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You can ask lyssie, the timeline just KEELED me to the point I was trying to get Ron to answer questions about it on Skiffy.
At one point they planned on the Galactica crashing into earth and when jumped to present day we would see an archaeological excavation someone in central or south America picking up the ship on underground sonar.
I have retconned in my head it was 10,000bc...and hey, Lee's descendants go on to found Greece and name stuff after Kara. :) Although pre-Greek culture doesn't surface before 5-6000K BC. Yeah, I got really upset over all of this last week.
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Did he? I vaguely remember skimming that thread, but I don't remember it being addressed. I'd incredibly interested to know the reasoning, even if it might make want to throw rocks at him. ;)
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It DID give us the possibility for imagining Chief's heroic spear fight with a man-eating 15 foot Giant Sloth... Oh, and for the ladies, Helo and Lee in loincloths.
Think about...I know you are now.
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