Well, I'm a week behind with this issue, but in my world you're caught up! Ep. 11 aired this past Saturday, but that hardly counts, it's only been a couple of days since. :)
I mean, he was trying to sell it, but I weren't buyin'.
I can definitely understand why one wouldn't. It's *Owen*. I am mysteriously disposed toward him, so I may be less than objective. He just... when he was so scared in bed with her, because he was possibly feeling something genuine, I really believed him. He's still an immature twat, I just inexplicably feel for him. Heh.
Thank you re: the ficlet!
Oh, hey, can you explain the stopwatch thing to me?
Hah, I wish. I was baffled too, and there was a discussion about it here. All I can say, after research, is that it may have to do with the fellows' desire to delay ejaculation, and perhaps doing so competitively, as in, timed. It's all barely-educated guessing on my part. o.0
Re: *covers Ianto's eyes*rustydogNovember 20 2007, 01:42:10 UTC
Maybe I should have put a warning on that answer. It's just, if anybody knows what the stopwatch thing is about, they're not explaining it to me very well. I just need plain, clinical facts so I can understand! All I could find was a bunch of psychology articles on ED.
You know, one thing about Owen that's so...endearing? appealing? (I don't know, maybe I just think that because it's something I recognize all too well from myself) is that instead of Tosh who pines for him, his choices are Gwen and Diane. Both of those women call him on his shit and won't put up with it. And Diane in particular really *sees* him and yet still wants to be with him. Actually the more I sit here and think about it, the more it seems to come full circle. Owen has this outer "I'm a heel" thing but the truth is he's trained as a doctor and works for Torchwood who are theoretically "the good guys." Hmmm, is there a male version of a madonna/whore dichotomy?
Owen has this outer "I'm a heel" thing but the truth is he's trained as a doctor and works for Torchwood who are theoretically "the good guys."
Yes! I really do think there's a sensitive (... maybe sensitive isn't the perfect word) guy in there - at least a guy who cares a lot - who is desperately being covered up by the twat. It's when I see those flashes of vulnerability, and also the extreme competence, which he couldn't pull off if he didn't care - that I find him most appealing.
Good observation about Tosh vs. Gwen and Diane. Hmm. With Tosh, I wonder if he mistreats her because she does like him so much. If he doesn't have a high opinion of himself (deep down anyway) then someone else who does wouldn't get much respect from him either.
The more I think about Diane, the more I like her. I like the way she left, too, because it leaves it open. Maybe she'll show up again someday! ::crosses fingers:: (Ha, as if Owen needed any more complications in his life.)
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I mean, he was trying to sell it, but I weren't buyin'.
I can definitely understand why one wouldn't. It's *Owen*. I am mysteriously disposed toward him, so I may be less than objective. He just... when he was so scared in bed with her, because he was possibly feeling something genuine, I really believed him. He's still an immature twat, I just inexplicably feel for him. Heh.
Thank you re: the ficlet!
Oh, hey, can you explain the stopwatch thing to me?
Hah, I wish. I was baffled too, and there was a discussion about it here. All I can say, after research, is that it may have to do with the fellows' desire to delay ejaculation, and perhaps doing so competitively, as in, timed. It's all barely-educated guessing on my part. o.0
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You know, one thing about Owen that's so...endearing? appealing? (I don't know, maybe I just think that because it's something I recognize all too well from myself) is that instead of Tosh who pines for him, his choices are Gwen and Diane. Both of those women call him on his shit and won't put up with it. And Diane in particular really *sees* him and yet still wants to be with him. Actually the more I sit here and think about it, the more it seems to come full circle. Owen has this outer "I'm a heel" thing but the truth is he's trained as a doctor and works for Torchwood who are theoretically "the good guys." Hmmm, is there a male version of a madonna/whore dichotomy?
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Yes! I really do think there's a sensitive (... maybe sensitive isn't the perfect word) guy in there - at least a guy who cares a lot - who is desperately being covered up by the twat. It's when I see those flashes of vulnerability, and also the extreme competence, which he couldn't pull off if he didn't care - that I find him most appealing.
Good observation about Tosh vs. Gwen and Diane. Hmm. With Tosh, I wonder if he mistreats her because she does like him so much. If he doesn't have a high opinion of himself (deep down anyway) then someone else who does wouldn't get much respect from him either.
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