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rowena_zane

There is no center.

Feb 12, 2010 19:52

Had lunch with an old friend from back in my Friendship Christian School days. His name is Jonathan and he and I were very close. Close in the way that we could have maybe even found ourselves in a relationship but for the fact that we ended up debating theology half the time ( Read more... )

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bnharrison February 13 2010, 04:21:24 UTC

oh my god, Jonathan. I haven't seen him since...wow, that time we all went to Ruby Tuesdays in like 2001?

What is he doing? How many kids does he have?

I'm not looking him up on facebook because...yeah. Same conversation, only louder.

rowena_zane February 13 2010, 04:45:57 UTC

Yeah, he mentioned to tell you hello. Consider the message delivered. He was nice enough about the whole conversation, but bless his heart he didn't want to stop debating, long after his childrens' interests for the Chic-fil-a playground had run out.

I had forgotten the Ruby Tuesdays trip. That's when he had a debate with me about dating men that weren't Christian and the necessity of the man to be the spiritual leader in a relationship.

Ah, Jonathan.

rowena_zane February 13 2010, 05:09:25 UTC

Oh, and he has three kids. They're cute. Two boys and a girl. The little girl is his spittin' image, and the other two look a little like their mother, as well.

He and his wife met in Korea, while they were both there teaching English in the mission field. She's very nice, and witty. She had a hard time grasping what I was getting at, too, though. This isn't a character flaw. Just an observation.

patchmani February 15 2010, 06:14:11 UTC

I am curious to know how you differentiate "modern" Christianity from plain ol' Christianity. This is the first time I've ever heard a reference to something like that. I would have assumed that the "modern" version would be more liberal and open but it doesn't seem like that's the case here.

In which I ramble... rowena_zane February 15 2010, 08:08:33 UTC

When I think of Modern Christianity as you'll find it in most places of organized worship (and I have to put that really long string of words there, as it is a generalization within which not all followers of Christ today fall), I think of megachurches that recite the Nicean Creed and to them it's all or nothing. It's the people that miss the point of what Jesus was really doing down here. He spoke of himself as an intercessor, and people flippantly say the words, "Well, Jesus saved me," or "I'm saved," and bandy them about like swords to point at the "unsaved" because it makes them part of a damn club. I don't think they have any idea what those words literally mean. They're printed in the back of Chick Tracts for people to repeat as if by saying the magic words that's all it takes ( ... )

Re: In which I ramble... patchmani February 15 2010, 20:41:15 UTC

Huh... amazing how time repeats itself after a while, isn't it? Thank you for clarifying.

Re: In which I ramble... capnsponge February 16 2010, 00:16:07 UTC

I agree with almost everything you say here. Do you feel like you've given up on Christianity because most Christians miss the point? Or do you feel like you've lost faith? No judgment. I'm just curious.

Also, are you familiar with the "Nooma" series by Rob Bell? I think you might like it. If you're interested, this episode is one of my favorites: Part 1, Part 2.

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