i have to stop editing.phoenix_templeOctober 11 2011, 07:33:01 UTC
Oh my god, do I ever stop asking questions.
On linking applications, I know comments were getting screened a lot around the time linking got super popular. I just wanted to make sure that this wouldn't happen again? It's the whole IF IT'S NOT A WHITE LISTED LINK, SCREW YOU 8DDD thing LJ started doing last spring. I think, for a while at least, wikia wasn't whitelisted and that's where a good portion of reference links come from.
Also, on passwords: I know you've heard this a thousand times from me, but if someone is already in the game, reading through the huge post that is the FAQ is a giant headache to find something that hasn't even necessarily changed. I don't think a system like that is going to work when you have fifteen and a half pages (on google docs) that a player is going to have to read through every single time they want to apply for a character
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If we have a linking problem (like, as you pointed out, comments getting screened) rescinding the rule may definitely become an option; but for now, we want to try this out in the name of making apps both A) easier and faster for us to get through, and B) keeping everything in place for our and for players' reference. We had some concerns, for instance, when someone erroneously thought we'd accepted a (linked) app with no samples, when the mun had actually simply removed them after being accepted.
Noted down your suggestion on giving a pass to curent members, which seems sound! I'm going to make a document with everybody's suggestions, for safekeeping. As for the tasks themselves--would something like, "which rule did you like best and why?" or "how many pokemon can one trainer keep?" be better? I'll have to look into the app system at both those games.
Well, the thing is? There's an option to turn it off. It was kind of a roundabout, tired way of asking "Please tell me you guys have turned off link screening?"
Maybe I didn't phrase it right, but it's not so much of a pass as much as a one-time deal. I'm all for the task and all for the searching of the FAQ, I just think a repeated search for everything is excessive.
And, again imo, I think a question better suited would be something like "how does anonymous work on the gear?" or "What Pokemon types does rain affect?"
(Dollsy just asked you, somewhere in the FAQ to put "Welcome to the Dollsy House" at the bottom of the app, when I was there.)
/sneaks in liek ninjasoccergogglesOctober 11 2011, 15:55:27 UTC
Hi! I just wanted to clarify with you (since both Ara and Raile weren't mods back then) that the screening link problem should be settled. The only reason why it started screening apps was when LJ reset every privacy setting the mod/comm accounts had when it included the new "Spam Protection" bit. And screened "untrustworthy" links.
It was brought up to me via AIM (or private plurk, icr which it was now) and was fixed immediately.
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. I probably just wasn't phrasing it right |D I just know the problem persisted for a while, like with the harry potter wikia, and I had no way of knowing it was fixed |D Thank you.
>:3 fufufufusoccergogglesOctober 11 2011, 16:48:09 UTC
It's okay! I had a feeling that was it~ And yeah, I remember that happening to Harry Potter and some of the Homestuck apps when they linked to the official MSPA site. I'm sorry for not being persistent enough about getting the word out that privacy settings were fixed, I think LJ was having one of it's... moments at the same time :|a but yes, sorry about that! They're all fixed now :'>
And for the record, while I will probably bitch and moan in the future about how ugly apps look on the comments page when they're all nice and pretty in my journals, I do think the linking thing is a good idea.
There's pros and cons for either side, as I said in another thread, but in the end I do think it's a lot easier for the mods and is less prone to misunderstanding. It'd be super easy for someone to edit a journal they linked to and go OH MAN THIS REJECTION WAS TOTALLY UNFAIR, or for misunderstandings on anoncomm like the recent one. At the same time, I've seen people get pending notices and rather than respond to it with the revisions, go back and change it, and I can understand that this makes it hell for the mods to judge when they can't see where the changes are--and I don't think it should be up to them to save copies
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While it would take whoever is in charge of app chat that night the five or so seconds it would take to click on the application to get the character's name and their starter (and to make sure that the applicant has the right password/using the right application form) the applicant could also spend that time posting said application. It makes things run smoother for us, and helps get the acceptance/pending/rejection notices out somewhat on time. Five AM applications, never again. And it could also stop those kinds of misunderstandings from happening again. By the time I saw that thread the problem had already been solved. In fact I kind of head-titled at it a little because I knew their samples were in the post when we worked on applications.
And yes, there is always the fact that people will fix their revisions inside their entry, and to my knowledge the people who have linked their application and were pended for something in the past usually respond to the pending notice with said corrections. But, there could always be the case
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ffff i actually didn't know where to put this so i was kinda like "oh look. a... thread /puts at end."
I just kinda wanted to voice my opinion since I saw other people being against the choice and I had a lot of thoughts on it and i figured all the mod-san's would see it here so... haha, IM SORRY FOR TEXT WALLING AT YOU.
On linking applications, I know comments were getting screened a lot around the time linking got super popular. I just wanted to make sure that this wouldn't happen again? It's the whole IF IT'S NOT A WHITE LISTED LINK, SCREW YOU 8DDD thing LJ started doing last spring. I think, for a while at least, wikia wasn't whitelisted and that's where a good portion of reference links come from.
Also, on passwords: I know you've heard this a thousand times from me, but if someone is already in the game, reading through the huge post that is the FAQ is a giant headache to find something that hasn't even necessarily changed. I don't think a system like that is going to work when you have fifteen and a half pages (on google docs) that a player is going to have to read through every single time they want to apply for a character ( ... )
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If we have a linking problem (like, as you pointed out, comments getting screened) rescinding the rule may definitely become an option; but for now, we want to try this out in the name of making apps both A) easier and faster for us to get through, and B) keeping everything in place for our and for players' reference. We had some concerns, for instance, when someone erroneously thought we'd accepted a (linked) app with no samples, when the mun had actually simply removed them after being accepted.
Noted down your suggestion on giving a pass to curent members, which seems sound! I'm going to make a document with everybody's suggestions, for safekeeping. As for the tasks themselves--would something like, "which rule did you like best and why?" or "how many pokemon can one trainer keep?" be better? I'll have to look into the app system at both those games.
Thanks for the input!
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Maybe I didn't phrase it right, but it's not so much of a pass as much as a one-time deal. I'm all for the task and all for the searching of the FAQ, I just think a repeated search for everything is excessive.
And, again imo, I think a question better suited would be something like "how does anonymous work on the gear?" or "What Pokemon types does rain affect?"
(Dollsy just asked you, somewhere in the FAQ to put "Welcome to the Dollsy House" at the bottom of the app, when I was there.)
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It was brought up to me via AIM (or private plurk, icr which it was now) and was fixed immediately.
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There's pros and cons for either side, as I said in another thread, but in the end I do think it's a lot easier for the mods and is less prone to misunderstanding. It'd be super easy for someone to edit a journal they linked to and go OH MAN THIS REJECTION WAS TOTALLY UNFAIR, or for misunderstandings on anoncomm like the recent one. At the same time, I've seen people get pending notices and rather than respond to it with the revisions, go back and change it, and I can understand that this makes it hell for the mods to judge when they can't see where the changes are--and I don't think it should be up to them to save copies ( ... )
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And yes, there is always the fact that people will fix their revisions inside their entry, and to my knowledge the people who have linked their application and were pended for something in the past usually respond to the pending notice with said corrections. But, there could always be the case ( ... )
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I just kinda wanted to voice my opinion since I saw other people being against the choice and I had a lot of thoughts on it and i figured all the mod-san's would see it here so... haha, IM SORRY FOR TEXT WALLING AT YOU.
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