What an interesting take on canon! You are talking the use of canon or non-canon in writing fic. What you can use to support your fic idea or not. I'm talking about what I believe actually happened. I'm not talking about writing at all, at least not at first. Before I write something, or even if I never write anything, I have to have an understanding of what actually happened in the canon story. When I pick and choose (and I don't since I accept it all) deleted scenes, I am trying to piece together 'the story'. It's an interesting idea, though. Reading the comments below I'm wondering if there is 'the' story. Maybe there's just 'my' story, the story I saw and the interpretations I made. Maybe we all have our own story of what happened.
After I figure out 'what happened' or what I think I've seen, then I can write if I want. As for what I use for fic, I can use anything. I'm AU girl. I sometimes disregard established canon altogether. I started reading and writing fic to see what didn't happen on screen. Anything else bores me. I like film and seeing things in live action. Even the worst BSG scene lives for me in a way the same scene can't for me on paper.
We've discussed this before but your stories work so well for me because they didn't happen onscreen at all. That's the beauty of Prophecy and Settlement. That's why they are interesting to me because they are full of details that were never explained. Details that will never be explained. That's me. I always want more show. From your fic, from the podcasts, just more, more, more. I really still do love this show.
And I am interested in television and how movies are made. That's why I vid. Live action is so fascinating. And I get scared of making writing DVD commentary about my stories. How I write still feels mysterious to me and I don't want to analyze it too much and become too self-aware of it. Oh, how we differ. :-)
Buffy was a cool show to me. I wasn't in fandom and I wasn't writing and I didn't know anything. No spoilers, no interviews, nothing. I still don't anything other than what I saw on screen. It was pure uncriticized viewing enjoyment. :-) Just me and the screen. I miss that sometimes. I put so many of the shows I watch currently under such scrutiny. It used to be nice to simply watch. But BSG may have ruined me for that. Not necessarily a bad thing, either. Just I'm a different kind of viewer now.
Oh, Ron... listen to your wife. She tried with Kara's ending. I give her kudos for that. She knew.
I'm talking about what I believe actually happened. I'm not talking about writing at all, at least not at first.
Huh. I just don't generally second-guess myself about the meaning of the show that's broadcast, once I've spent a few days 'digesting' it. I do like to read thougtful commentaries from other viewers but once I've formulated my general understanding and reaction, I don't often change it. I might wish for it to be different, but it is what it is.
As for what I use for fic, I can use anything. I'm AU girl. I sometimes disregard established canon altogether. I started reading and writing fic to see what didn't happen on screen. Anything else bores me.
I like trying to make what I write fit into the show itself--most of the time, anyway. They just didn't have time to make that episode about Jean and Leoben on Caprica and about Trina finding the C-Bucs and getting captured! (I know, making up background for minor characters or inventing original characters doesn't seem much like 'canon' but I like telling myself that what I write matches what's on the show.)
And I am interested in television and how movies are made. That's why I vid. Live action is so fascinating. I'm interested, but not TOO interested, if that makes sense. But that's probably why only one vid-bunny ever bit hard enough for me to actually contemplate making a vid (and then I chased it away, 'cause I don't have time for another hobby like that!).
And I get scared of making writing DVD commentary about my stories. How I write still feels mysterious to me and I don't want to analyze it too much and become too self-aware of it.
Heh. I have to stop myself, because it's frequently very tempting to make commentaries on my own stories... *whistles 'You're So Vain'*
I miss that sometimes. I put so many of the shows I watch currently under such scrutiny. It used to be nice to simply watch. But BSG may have ruined me for that. Not necessarily a bad thing, either. Just I'm a different kind of viewer now.
Having bought five seasons of Buffy (out of seven) and all five seasons of Angel, I can say that I'm more aware of some aspects of TV-making than I was before I watched/listened to the commentaries on the discs. I do sort of miss that level of un-awareness sometimes. Thank goodness Joss Whedon didn't do commentaries on more episodes. Because if they're available I can't resist them. (Uh, I believe I listened to ALL of the commentaries on the Lord of the Rings discs... there were a LOT of different commentaries available, too. Producers, actors, special effects and wardrobe, and more.)
I just don't generally second-guess myself about the meaning of the show that's broadcast, once I've spent a few days 'digesting' it. I don't usually, either. What I see is what I see. But when the storyteller doesn't do a great job and I'm confused, well that's what I see. Confusion. That's what eps like Daybreak 2 and even No Exit were for me. My meaning was, "Whaaa?" :-) That's why I went looking for answers outside of the screen. But you're right, my view hasn't changed much. I'm still at "Whaaa?"
They just didn't have time to make that episode about Jean and Leoben on Caprica and about Trina finding the C-Bucs and getting captured! Exactly! And they didn't have time to include the deleted scenes, either! Yay, more show! Fanfic, deleted scenes, I'll take what I can get!
I have to stop myself, because it's frequently very tempting to make commentaries on my own stories... You'll kill the mystery!! But of course, I'll still read it.
I listened to ALL of the commentaries on the Lord of the Rings discs... there were a LOT of different commentaries available, too. Producers, actors, special effects and wardrobe, and more.) Me too! It was all so beautifully done that you had to watch it all. Even though the extended versions were like four hours long. And that was just the movie alone! I spent a few days on each of those DVDs. Just to watch them build The Shire or Eowyn's castle was lovely. :-)
You'll kill the mystery!! But of course, I'll still read it. Hee! That's my compulsion with real DVD commentaries! I have to listen to them, even though I sort of don't want to know!
Me too! It was all so beautifully done that you had to watch it all. Even though the extended versions were like four hours long. And that was just the movie alone! I spent a few days on each of those DVDs. Just to watch them build The Shire or Eowyn's castle was lovely. :-)
I'm glad it wasn't just me. You could spend a week watching those things...
After I figure out 'what happened' or what I think I've seen, then I can write if I want. As for what I use for fic, I can use anything. I'm AU girl. I sometimes disregard established canon altogether. I started reading and writing fic to see what didn't happen on screen. Anything else bores me. I like film and seeing things in live action. Even the worst BSG scene lives for me in a way the same scene can't for me on paper.
We've discussed this before but your stories work so well for me because they didn't happen onscreen at all. That's the beauty of Prophecy and Settlement. That's why they are interesting to me because they are full of details that were never explained. Details that will never be explained. That's me. I always want more show. From your fic, from the podcasts, just more, more, more. I really still do love this show.
And I am interested in television and how movies are made. That's why I vid. Live action is so fascinating. And I get scared of making writing DVD commentary about my stories. How I write still feels mysterious to me and I don't want to analyze it too much and become too self-aware of it. Oh, how we differ. :-)
Buffy was a cool show to me. I wasn't in fandom and I wasn't writing and I didn't know anything. No spoilers, no interviews, nothing. I still don't anything other than what I saw on screen. It was pure uncriticized viewing enjoyment. :-) Just me and the screen. I miss that sometimes. I put so many of the shows I watch currently under such scrutiny. It used to be nice to simply watch. But BSG may have ruined me for that. Not necessarily a bad thing, either. Just I'm a different kind of viewer now.
Oh, Ron... listen to your wife.
She tried with Kara's ending. I give her kudos for that. She knew.
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Huh. I just don't generally second-guess myself about the meaning of the show that's broadcast, once I've spent a few days 'digesting' it. I do like to read thougtful commentaries from other viewers but once I've formulated my general understanding and reaction, I don't often change it. I might wish for it to be different, but it is what it is.
As for what I use for fic, I can use anything. I'm AU girl. I sometimes disregard established canon altogether. I started reading and writing fic to see what didn't happen on screen. Anything else bores me.
I like trying to make what I write fit into the show itself--most of the time, anyway. They just didn't have time to make that episode about Jean and Leoben on Caprica and about Trina finding the C-Bucs and getting captured! (I know, making up background for minor characters or inventing original characters doesn't seem much like 'canon' but I like telling myself that what I write matches what's on the show.)
And I am interested in television and how movies are made. That's why I vid. Live action is so fascinating.
I'm interested, but not TOO interested, if that makes sense. But that's probably why only one vid-bunny ever bit hard enough for me to actually contemplate making a vid (and then I chased it away, 'cause I don't have time for another hobby like that!).
And I get scared of making writing DVD commentary about my stories. How I write still feels mysterious to me and I don't want to analyze it too much and become too self-aware of it.
Heh. I have to stop myself, because it's frequently very tempting to make commentaries on my own stories...
*whistles 'You're So Vain'*
I miss that sometimes. I put so many of the shows I watch currently under such scrutiny. It used to be nice to simply watch. But BSG may have ruined me for that. Not necessarily a bad thing, either. Just I'm a different kind of viewer now.
Having bought five seasons of Buffy (out of seven) and all five seasons of Angel, I can say that I'm more aware of some aspects of TV-making than I was before I watched/listened to the commentaries on the discs. I do sort of miss that level of un-awareness sometimes. Thank goodness Joss Whedon didn't do commentaries on more episodes. Because if they're available I can't resist them. (Uh, I believe I listened to ALL of the commentaries on the Lord of the Rings discs... there were a LOT of different commentaries available, too. Producers, actors, special effects and wardrobe, and more.)
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I don't usually, either. What I see is what I see. But when the storyteller doesn't do a great job and I'm confused, well that's what I see. Confusion. That's what eps like Daybreak 2 and even No Exit were for me. My meaning was, "Whaaa?" :-) That's why I went looking for answers outside of the screen. But you're right, my view hasn't changed much. I'm still at "Whaaa?"
They just didn't have time to make that episode about Jean and Leoben on Caprica and about Trina finding the C-Bucs and getting captured!
Exactly! And they didn't have time to include the deleted scenes, either! Yay, more show! Fanfic, deleted scenes, I'll take what I can get!
I have to stop myself, because it's frequently very tempting to make commentaries on my own stories...
You'll kill the mystery!! But of course, I'll still read it.
I listened to ALL of the commentaries on the Lord of the Rings discs... there were a LOT of different commentaries available, too. Producers, actors, special effects and wardrobe, and more.)
Me too! It was all so beautifully done that you had to watch it all. Even though the extended versions were like four hours long. And that was just the movie alone! I spent a few days on each of those DVDs. Just to watch them build The Shire or Eowyn's castle was lovely. :-)
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Hee! That's my compulsion with real DVD commentaries! I have to listen to them, even though I sort of don't want to know!
Me too! It was all so beautifully done that you had to watch it all. Even though the extended versions were like four hours long. And that was just the movie alone! I spent a few days on each of those DVDs. Just to watch them build The Shire or Eowyn's castle was lovely. :-)
I'm glad it wasn't just me. You could spend a week watching those things...
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