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Aug 13, 2015 02:22

Is it just me, or there is a significant change of writing focus in Buffy fandom in the past couple of years, where femslash becomes more and more prominent, when male slash withers and dies ( Read more... )

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kerkevik_2014 August 13 2015, 00:29:16 UTC
Most of my focus has always been on the female characters; I entered Buffy fandom through Tara Maclay; even my fave male characters could be said to have a feminine texture to them; despite the way they are sometimes written (Giles; Oz; Spike - in order of appearance ( ... )

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rbfvid August 13 2015, 09:40:23 UTC
One thing I've always liked is that the female characters can, and do for me, exist entirely independently of the males, but this is not true in the reverse.
Yeah, it's still very rare thing even in the modern shows. I can't even imagine how it could have felt 15 years ago. (Or probably most people didn't pay attention to that back in the day, given that only small percent of older Buffy fic was focused exclusively on female charcters.)

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kerkevik_2014 August 13 2015, 11:39:23 UTC
I always found it very strange; again it may be me (or possibly my asperger's which has only relatively recently been diagnosed), that the Buffy/Spike / Buffy/Angel rivalry between fans seemed so strong in what was supposed to be a feminist kind of show. It always felt to me like a 'who gets to bang Buffy last' contest.

I thought the cookie dough speech was really interesting in that regard; just wish she'd said it far earlier in the series.

I also get freaked by the all the fics pairing Willow with Spike as I can't think of a single time where any kind of sexual contact was implied that wasn;t at the very least sexual assault.

Fandom can be very strange in how it sees things sometimes. The vast majority of my sexual contacts have been male/male, but I cannot easily read fandom m/m fic very easily.

*does mash-up of a shrug/wtf/facepalm/oy vey*

:-)

kerk

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rbfvid August 13 2015, 11:47:28 UTC
All those promos and fanmade Angel-Buffy-Spike posters was one of the reasons why I avoided watching BtVS for the long time. Because they gave me impression that "Buffy" is some 90s verion of Twilight focused on love triangle romance.

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kerkevik_2014 August 13 2015, 11:59:12 UTC
Have you read the fic where Buffy goes like, "Did you just sparkle at me?" and then slays the boy!pain vamp from the genres answer to fifty grades of somebody-got-paid-to-write-this-abusive-shit?

Not that I have my prejudices....

kerk

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rbfvid August 13 2015, 18:06:10 UTC
I think every other buffyverse author has written that kind of story. Once I was trying to find a decent BtVS/Twilight crossover (don't ask why, my desires are unconventional), and got sick of the amount of Twilight-bashing. And I don't even like Twilight...

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kerkevik_2014 August 13 2015, 11:07:48 UTC
A lot of femslash fics are friendship fics, or what I would have called friendship fics; or I find them so anyway. Certainly I find the lines to be blurry to say that the least. On that basis of course there are a great many slash fics that could be referred to as friendship fics; good many Xander/Spike & Xander/Angel fics in that category for me, as are a good many f/m or m/f; depending on your perspective, fics.

Filled a buffy/dawn prompt recently as Dawn, between S5 & S6 reflecting on her love for her sister. Love and relationships come in many colours, a fact that has given me some of my best friendships over the years.

kerk

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