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dangermousie June 19 2009, 19:23:39 UTC
Oh GOD!

I love you!

I didn't know anybody else who watched this!

Granted, I only saw up through when they ran away from her evil evil family and got sidetracked, but I always meant to go back. I think I know what I am doing this weekend.

After this, Fashion 70s, Punch, and upcoming Dream, I am beginning to think that Joo Jin Mo's particular niche is "guy with issues who has fun rearranging your face."

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darkeyedwolf June 19 2009, 19:34:39 UTC
Am so watching Fashion 70s next. I think I'm getting a crush.

Did you watch to the timeskip? It had to be the worst I've ever seen -- so bad it was hilarious. Oh, and did you notice GWAN PIL THE REBEL SOLDIER?? He yelled! He laughed freely! It was bizarro world!

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dangermousie June 19 2009, 19:40:47 UTC
Yay on Fashion 70s. He gets to fondle a gun a lot which is very enjoyable. (I am very amused at the thought of upcoming Dream: Jin Ha teaches emo pottery boy Yi Jung how to kick men in the face.)

Gwan Pil yelled? What is the world coming to?

Haven't gotten to timeskip yet. I am on ep 6 or so of Chinese version

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darkeyedwolf June 19 2009, 19:45:56 UTC
There was also Park Shin Hye (Hana from ToH) as the son's OTP. Cutest secondary couple ever!

You'll to tell me if the timeskip happens the same way in the Chinese version. Because if the kdrama was chopped for time, maybe it was less wtf in the original. XD

I admit, Dream just got a lot more exciting.

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dangermousie June 19 2009, 19:49:08 UTC
Generally the pacing in the Chinese one isn't bad - it's a little bit "slow" a drama by kdrama standards (but pretty fast-paced for wuxia). Or, I suppose, i guess a more accurate way to phrase it would be it's not slower jut differently paced - plenty of kdramas are slower than this. I know it's blasphemy but I thought I would scream of boredom when they were debating salt rights in Jumong.

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darkeyedwolf June 19 2009, 19:54:44 UTC
That's really interesting, because my main problem with the kdrama is that it moved so damn fast. (The timeskip being a prime example -- THIRTEEN YEARS LATER.) I can't believe I'm saying this after I complain about kdrama length all the time, but I really wouldn't have minded if Bicheonmu was longer.

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dangermousie June 19 2009, 20:05:20 UTC
Hmmmm. The movie (which I like but which has a problematic ending, to me) had a similar timeskip and was even more confusing as he went by a different name and I was whaaaaaa...who is this? It did have an epically awesome scene of another girl whose role I do not recall sucking poison out of his wound with nakedness involved.

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*****SPOILERS***** darkeyedwolf June 19 2009, 20:10:23 UTC
What was the ending?

The drama handled it so badly it was downright funny. It was literally a voiceover. "And the hero forsake all his principles and became a feared assassin (me: WHAT?) and the heroine married secondary guy and popped out two kids (me: WHAAAAT??) and now we'll truck along and see everyone with moustaches, the only signs of over a decade of aging."

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Re: *****SPOILERS***** dangermousie June 19 2009, 20:15:50 UTC
The husband nobly lets them go and dies protecting their escape or whatever. Then they are in woods surrounded by baddies and in the process of demolishing all his enemies she gets mortally wounded saving him. Fine, so far so good. Their kid is there watching his mommy die, also so far so good. Then she dies basically telling him to promise to take care of their kid blah blah. Also, so far so good.

THEN HE KILLS HIMSELF OVER HER CORPSE. IN FRONT OF THEIR LITTLE KID. WTF!!!! This is is presented as noble and romantic and I am still going selfish bastard! Who is going to take care of the kid! Also, she made you promise to care for him! And you offed yourself in front of his face - who does that!

I can rage for a while at the stupidity.

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Re: *****SPOILERS***** darkeyedwolf June 19 2009, 20:18:46 UTC
*BOGGLES*

*just -- boggles*

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Re: *****SPOILERS***** dangermousie June 19 2009, 20:20:20 UTC
Korean movie logic. Not like our earth logic.

I liked him just fine until then but after this my hatred got to quite seething levels.

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Re: *****SPOILERS***** darkeyedwolf June 19 2009, 20:26:02 UTC
He made some pretty questionable decisions in the drama, but by that point he'd been through so much I couldn't blame him.

Plus he looked good in an evil cape.

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Re: *****SPOILERS***** dangermousie June 19 2009, 20:26:37 UTC
There are labor camps? Tell me more...

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Re: *****SPOILERS***** darkeyedwolf June 19 2009, 20:31:54 UTC
After his stint as the human pin cushion, he falls off a cliff and washes ashore a criminal labor camp (which he then liberates and creates his army out of -- very pragmatic, that Jin Ha). At one point he's tied up and the starving prisoners are beating him in exchange for food. It's delicious.

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Re: *****SPOILERS***** dangermousie June 19 2009, 20:33:49 UTC
At one point he's tied up and the starving prisoners are beating him in exchange for food

Ahhh, Korean drama, I love you! I am watching this tonight. :P

I do wonder why the guards want to waste valuable food just because they are too lazy to beat him themselves.

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Re: *****SPOILERS***** darkeyedwolf June 19 2009, 20:36:25 UTC
It was more about breaking their spirits, I think. Gwan Pil (I really must learn that actor's name) was there too, sort of like his Jumuchi.

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