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Well that was pointless

Aug 18, 2005 15:52

Wow, so I rushed to the bus terminal, but missed the 3:45 bus up to Brock. Caught the next one, rushed to a computer lab, only to discover my attachment hadn't properly saved, so I could not print my letter for OSAP here, either. Then went to the OCH office to post my listing (Wanted: Roommate), but it's already closed. Fan-fucking-tastic! I filled ( Read more... )

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mr_mercutio August 18 2005, 23:11:44 UTC

Shawna, I never comment on your journal, so this will probably seem presumptuous of me, and I imagine you'll be rather angry, but so be it. I've noticed that you tell your side of the story, which is understandable to a point, as it's yours. However, you completely villify Erin CONSTANTLY in your LJ posts recently, and you try to phrase things to make it appear as though you're completely innocent. This is completely not the case. Even if I didn't know anything about the situation, I would know this is not the case because things like this are never completely one sided or one person's "fault". Both people have problems with each other, and everyone has at least one or two valid points. So I'm sure some of your concerns about Erin are valid enough. However, taking that into consideration, don't you think that at least some of her concerns about you are valid as well?

All that being as it is, it doesn't matter anyways. What matters is that you don't for one moment take her thoughts and feelings about this into consideration. Now, you may say that you do, and I will admit that I don't talk to you anymore, so I don't know for sure if that's true. But reading your livejournal, it really seems like you feel that you're completely innocent in this case and that Erin is just out to fuck you over. This is not the case. I have talked to Erin all about this, and I have also heard accounts from many more people about this situation (and no, not just Tang and Mike). Your views on this are skewed at best, Shawna.

Erin has left the apartment because it became the necessary thing to do. Do you honestly believe that she wanted it to go this far? That she wanted this headache, this nonsense of having to move, find a new place, find someone to take over her lease, of having to deal with splitting up things with you and all of the other complications that have arisen? No one wants insanity like that. She did it because if she had not, the two of you would likely have destroyed each other's minds, and perhaps bodies as well. So she did it. And contrary to what you have implied, she has done a lot of work to try and make it as smooth a transition as possible. You may refute this, but I have been there with her while she was doing it. I saw her trying to find someone else to take the place. She was looking for a female roommate for you after you stated your concerns. She did talk to a number of people who had expressed an interest in the place. None of them decided to take the place. She had talked to you about Jamie moving in, and she says that you had agreed that it was to be a last option. Now, you may have a different story, I don't know, but I don't see Erin making that up. And since Jamie also corroborates that side of the story, it makes sense. She told you when he was coming down, and she apologized that you couldn't be there when he was, but there wasn't another time for him to come to St. Catharines. So... you knew he was coming, to see the place and to sign the lease. And then you claim that she went about all this without telling you. I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense to me. You can yell at me all you like and tell me it's none of my business, but it just doesn't, at all, and I think someone needs to say that, because no one is saying Erin's side of the story but herself.

And on that note, I don't see why you need to constantly villify Erin on Livejournal, making it seem as though she were some kind of monster, when I know (and I'm pretty sure most everyone else knows) that this is not the case. She doesn't rant about you this way in her Livejournal, because that would be crude. She doesn't want to bring it up in a public forum and have everyone attack you, because she is trying to be civil about this. Hence my replying to your post, because she is not going online herself to defend herself against this, and I know how much it's hurting her and causing her no end of headaches and heartache.

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mr_mercutio August 18 2005, 23:12:01 UTC

And the deal with Jamie... he signed the lease Shawna. And though you claim differently, it doesn't make sense that you didn't know he was, and if you had such a huge issue with it before, you ought to have destroyed any possibility of it. Saying now that you aren't going to let it happen because you refuse to live with a male is one of the most horrible things you could do. Gah, this has just kept going and going, and everyone is upset and getting jerked around, but making posts like this and remaining completely obstinant and pretending that you're completely innocent in this case is not helping anyone.

So yeah, I do feel somewhat assholish and out-of-place making a comment here, but I don't know where else to make it, Shawna. No one else is coming here to say that Erin has a point, so I'm saying it. Erin has a point, Shawna. She has a couple. And the reason that you don't hear them is because you make yourself out to be a saint about this, so you don't listen to her side of things, and it becomes useless. I don't know if my saying this has done anything but make matters worse, but someone needed to say all this. So, I'm sorry that I've come to your journal to seemingly attack you, Shawna, but Erin is one of my closest friends, and I just can't see you make these posts and have no one say "back up a minute".

I hope that you will try to see that she had reasons for leaving, and that they were valid, and that a lot of the things you accuse her of are not the way you think they are. She didn't take "your" things, she took things that belonged to both of you, and she left a lot of things there too. The couch, the phone, milk crates, a lot of the Ikea stuff you guys got together. She took a garbage can, some of the baskets, and a few other things. She LEFT things there, things that were partly hers too. Because she didn't want to fight anymore about this stuff. You guys fought enough over the phone charger, and she just wanted to get out of there. You charge her of breaking your things (I'm not sure if you say she deliberately did it or not, but that's beside the point). She did not break them on purpose, and in the case of the laptop, you left a laptop lying around with its cd port lying open... so I'm not sure what you expected to happen. I was there with her, Shawna, I saw the port lying open, over the table no less. So I don't think you can blame her for that. She didn't mean to take the printer with her, and she brought it back, although you claim in an earlier post that she stole it. If it got broken, she's sorry about it, but again, it wasn't like she was intentionally taking your things and destroying them. Erin isn't like that, and you and I and many others all know that.

I know, again, that it probably isn't my place to say anything, but I can only claim that I'm Erin's friend, I'm concerned about her, and I'm tired of seeing her name trampled on without anyone standing up for her in here like this. So you may commence yelling at me and telling me to fuck off and mind my own business if you like. I'm just sticking up for my friend.

~ Jon

Interesting. jazzy_spazzy August 19 2005, 05:34:04 UTC

I'm not sure who the fuck who think you are buddy, but you have got some FUCKING nerve. You have NO RIGHT to post ANYTHING on Shawna's LJ. You said it many times yourself.
Shawna is a good person and a FANTASTIC friend who would do anything for the people she cares about, including Erin. And Erin FUCKED her over, and she knows it deep down inside. There is NO WAY in HELL that Shawna would have EVER agreed to have Jamie sign that lease and move into her home NO MATTER WHAT. Last ditch option or not. I know this for a fact. This was not a matter that was up for discussion.
Also, as for Shawna "villifying" Erin in her LJ... she has EVERY right to say whatever she wants in here, public forum or not, this is still her journal. Her thoughts; her feelings, and you if you were any kind of human being you would know that you have no opinion that matters on people's thoughts and/or feelings. They are for that person and that person only. It's a lovely thing though, the internet.... because if it wasn't for the world wide web, I would not have the privilege/oppurtunity to tell what a COMPLETE AND UTTER FUCKING INSENSITIVE FUCK YOU ARE.

*Val.

Re: Interesting. mikeiam August 19 2005, 06:46:31 UTC

I'll tell you exactly who he fucking thinks he is, buddy. He's a got who has some FUCKING nerve, and is standing up for a friend of his. He has EVERY right to post on Shawna's LJ, because it is, after all, a public forum. If she didn't want him to post, she could make it a private entry, but that would defeat the purpose of soliciting pity, and making all her attempts to villify Erin in this public forum null and void, now wouldn't it?

I'm not sure how you can skew the events into some twisted view to make Shawna the victim here. Ok, some things bad happened. Yes, it happens. It will happen. That doesn't mean that Shawna is in ANY light innocent of wrong doing, nor does has Erin made an attempt to "fuck her over"

I tried to stay out of this all. I like to stay as a neutral party, especially since I have to work alongside Shawna in the coming year at Brock, but you know what? I've had enough. I thought all this bull shit drama was supposed to end when we left high school. Oh how wrong I have been. It's much, much worse.

When a good friend of mine calls me up, quite obviously distressed (which doesn't happen alot to a guy with more energy than a hyena on pop rocks) because he has 2 weeks to find a new place to live, since he was just told that he was being taken to COURT over his housing, there's something wrong.

Your comment was evidence enough of the 2 sides that are forming here. Erin is being civil, she didn't go ranting on about her side of the story (because even if you can't admit it, there ARE 2 sides here.) because Shawna had asked her not to. Shawna, on the other hand has done the opposite and posted every other day about how much Erin is the incarnate of evil and deserves to burn for her sins against humanity.Jon (arien) made a civil (albeit a bit snide, but nothing to the level Shawna has been) comment trying to give the story from the other side, and YOU explode swearing and calling him names.

Everyone needs to grow up and have a little bit of common sense.

We're all adults, and things can be sorted out if everyone sits down, shuts up, and has a little bit of decency.

Re: Interesting. tainted_daisy August 19 2005, 15:07:49 UTC

classy...

RE: Classy... mr_mercutio August 19 2005, 19:12:32 UTC

I never claimed to be classy... in fact I have never claimed to be anything I am not. Including a good friend and a caring person, which is how you presented yourself to Shawna. You have zero respect for Shawna. You knew how she felt about the situation and you went ahead and did what YOU wanted to do, you never gave Shawna's feelings a second thought. You are a very selfish person, and you have lost a great friend in Shawna. I hope you feel good about yourself.

Re: Classy... mr_mercutio August 19 2005, 19:15:54 UTC

By the way... it's Val... but I'm sure you figured it out.

Re: Interesting. jason_tang August 24 2005, 03:30:52 UTC

Hey Val, nice to see you too.

I know that this post of yours has little to do with me, but I just needed to say one thing.

I thought you were a decent person. You may actually be one, but I just can't see it any more.

sorry... a few things, (this deserves an explanation)

After we first met, I thought you were someone who was just a little 'in your face'. People are free to do what they want, I don't condemn you for that. I condemn you for the simple fact that I, having never done anything to Shawna, got cold glares and 'not so friendly comments' from you. At the time I was willing to let it go, because you only heard Shawna's side and are obviously very protective of her. I happen to be protective of my friends as well.

The last thing I have to say (which I, as most can attest to, never say) is... da da da DAAAA!!!

FUCK YOU.

mr_mercutio August 22 2005, 21:26:31 UTC

If you saw the port open, over the side of the table no less, why didn't you move it to a safer location?

I mean, you both knew how Shawna is, yet you deliberatly left it so that it could have an accident. Seem's kind of dumb on your part. Especially what you just did here in admitting it. If you are having problems with a person, why leave them with anything to jump on?

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