C'mon man, yeah, there's a lot of crazy Muslims out there. They have absolutely no sense of humor when it comes to their religious icons. Even so, that's not all muslims. Christians do some crazy shit too. Depending on your view of it, the Isrealis do horrible things because of their religion all the time. I think it's far more indicative of the conditions they live in than their religion.
Quit with the moral relativism crap. Christians do not blow themselves up to kill infidels. And any Christian who does is not a true Christian. The same can not be said about Islam. A good Muslim will kill an unbeliever and subject a Jew or Christian to dhimmitude (if they're lucky).
And the Crusades started to help the Byzantine empire from Muslim aggression, so don't even bother. Oh, and it was 700 years ago, get over it.
You can go here and get a lot of my views (it's my LJ). Now, my post is a knee-jerk reaction, so I recommend that you read my post and all of the comments in their entirety if/before you reply to anything I wrote there.
Well, what I was trying to say is that the actions of some Muslims aren't the actions of all Muslims. Saying all Muslims are violent bomb-wearing jihadists based on what that mob was doing is like saying all black people are gangsta ghetto crack dealing homeboys. It's a stereotype. Granted, some stereotypes have a foundation in reality. The one with Muslims certainly does. There's no arguing about whether or not some Muslims blow people up and are violent. They obviously are
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What you said is certainly correct (your overall thesis that member x of group a does not represent everyone in group a).
But, my point is that Islam is a violent religion by it's teachings. Christianity is not. Judaism isn't either (at least to the best of my knowledge). I'm only so quick to jump on this because everyone seems to always want to bring up Christianity's dark side in the defense of Islam, when I feel that the comparison is not deserved...based on the fundamental principles of the two religions.
Irony for the day: Islam has much more in common than Judaism than Christianity.
How do you know it's more violent by its teachings? Have you read the Qu'ran (or however it's spelled)? Have you compared it to the Bible?
And who says that these Muslims were taught by their religion to act this violently? Yes, they may have been taught that it is wrong to portray their prophet in drawings but the way they react to someone doing so may not be scripted. If the followers are willing to turn to violence then it doesn't matter what religion they are. They could have Christians mad about an exhibit where a cruxifiction was put in a jar of urine.
In fact, there were reports of Muslim clerics wading into the crowd and trying to calm the people and keep them from such violence. In that case it's hard to blame it on the religion alone. It seems more like they're exceedingly unhappy with the Western world already and something like this was the spark needed to set them off.
"How do you know it's more violent by its teachings? Have you read the Qu'ran (or however it's spelled)? Have you compared it to the Bible?"
Yes and yes. Koran is the proper Romanization of Qu'ran, which is an Arabic word. I do my best to not just spew poo out of my bum.
"And who says that these Muslims were taught by their religion to act this violently? Yes, they may have been taught that it is wrong to portray their prophet in drawings but the way they react to someone doing so may not be scripted. If the followers are willing to turn to violence then it doesn't matter what religion they are. They could have Christians mad about an exhibit where a cruxifiction was put in a jar of urine."
It's funny you brought up the Piss Christ, because no Christians were burning down the Capitol building to cut off federal funds to it (or anything like that). I'm a religious person, and I have no problem with religious people being easily offended (the Rolling Stone cover offends me). I also have no problem with religious people protesting
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Hamilton College is a pretty liberal school. I got pretty good at debating conservative POV, since I was surrounded by liberals. Funny thing is a) I'm better for it and b) I'm more conservative now than before I went to Hamilton.
Maybe more liberal students should go to places like Bob Jones University?
And for God's sake, stop watching Fox News.
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And the Crusades started to help the Byzantine empire from Muslim aggression, so don't even bother. Oh, and it was 700 years ago, get over it.
You can go here and get a lot of my views (it's my LJ). Now, my post is a knee-jerk reaction, so I recommend that you read my post and all of the comments in their entirety if/before you reply to anything I wrote there.
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But, my point is that Islam is a violent religion by it's teachings. Christianity is not. Judaism isn't either (at least to the best of my knowledge). I'm only so quick to jump on this because everyone seems to always want to bring up Christianity's dark side in the defense of Islam, when I feel that the comparison is not deserved...based on the fundamental principles of the two religions.
Irony for the day: Islam has much more in common than Judaism than Christianity.
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And who says that these Muslims were taught by their religion to act this violently? Yes, they may have been taught that it is wrong to portray their prophet in drawings but the way they react to someone doing so may not be scripted. If the followers are willing to turn to violence then it doesn't matter what religion they are. They could have Christians mad about an exhibit where a cruxifiction was put in a jar of urine.
In fact, there were reports of Muslim clerics wading into the crowd and trying to calm the people and keep them from such violence. In that case it's hard to blame it on the religion alone. It seems more like they're exceedingly unhappy with the Western world already and something like this was the spark needed to set them off.
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Yes and yes. Koran is the proper Romanization of Qu'ran, which is an Arabic word. I do my best to not just spew poo out of my bum.
"And who says that these Muslims were taught by their religion to act this violently? Yes, they may have been taught that it is wrong to portray their prophet in drawings but the way they react to someone doing so may not be scripted. If the followers are willing to turn to violence then it doesn't matter what religion they are. They could have Christians mad about an exhibit where a cruxifiction was put in a jar of urine."
It's funny you brought up the Piss Christ, because no Christians were burning down the Capitol building to cut off federal funds to it (or anything like that). I'm a religious person, and I have no problem with religious people being easily offended (the Rolling Stone cover offends me). I also have no problem with religious people protesting ( ... )
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Maybe more liberal students should go to places like Bob Jones University?
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(sorry, cheap jab :)
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