3325: A flower tale - Scarlett Marie Black, Elizabeth "Eli" Annabell Potter

Oct 02, 2014 21:34

Don't forget about the fanfic contest. Today's link of the day deals with character bashing. It is a forum thread.

Since this is the month of October I decided that the Flashback Sue's will deal with the ones featured on Halloween. This one is from 2003 and had a Native American Sue.

TITLE: A flower tale
PERPETRATOR: Severus's Daughter
SUE-O- ( Read more... )

related to the potters, rating - toxic, pb - magic stick

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indigoneutrino October 3 2014, 15:22:12 UTC
Well, this plot is very unlikely, and I think that might be an understatement.

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yemi_hikari October 3 2014, 18:24:33 UTC
The writer didn't even try to make a plausible plot. I think they only care for the PWP they have their character go through later on. Which is sad.

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indigoneutrino October 3 2014, 18:26:34 UTC
Wait, there's PWP later on? Oh dear...

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yemi_hikari October 3 2014, 18:36:02 UTC
It's not descriptive, but yes.

~ Chapter four has Snape raping the girl he thinks of as a daughter and her consenting because her boyfriend Draco says it is all right.
~ Chapter five has I believe them wanting to run off because Voldemort also used her as a sex slave.
~ Chapter six declares them married... Snape and Elizabeth... and thus what Voldemort is doing is wrong, but not what Snape is doing to Elizabeth. On top of this instead of trying to escape Snape decides to have sex with her again first.

At least... that's what I got out of it.

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beacon80 October 3 2014, 15:53:01 UTC
Scarlett ends up killed because her husband though she cheated on him and Eli ends up in the orphanage.
On one hand, while obviously there's no excuse for killing your wife, adopting/fostering a child is really something you should discuss with your husband before hand.
On the other hand, this guy somehow didn't realize that the girl his wife suddenly showed up with wasn't hers. So either he was gone for the last half year, is too oblivious to realize his wife was never pregnant, or he never got "the talk".
So basically, they're both idiots.

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yemi_hikari October 3 2014, 17:28:06 UTC
Let's also not forget that Eli should also be a year old already. This means the guy would be asking which relative dumped the kid on her, not whether his wife cheated on him. This makes the guy the bigger idiot.

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ext_2118339 October 3 2014, 17:31:00 UTC
How on Earth did you make it to chapter four? :P Aaaaaaargh ( ... )

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yemi_hikari October 3 2014, 18:33:41 UTC
I suggest looking up the term "whump". I tend to "whump" on Hinamori Momo from Bleach because of her character flaws and one writer called me out for character bashing.

It depends on how you write it. Turning Ron into a playboy after a break up with Hermione can be character bashing if he womanizes every single woman he is with and thinks they should be under his thumb, particularly Hermione. It's whump if you have him still be friends with Hermione and him realize that's the kind of life style he really wants to live, albiet Hermione does agree.

It's also character bashing if Ron rapes Hermione because she wouldn't "be" with him only to have her go off to whatever guy you want to pair her with to be healed by the other guy, only to have Ron try to murder everybody.

It's about being fair to the character. Ron and Momo from Bleach... both are characters with the kind of flaws where they're not necessarily going to get a good draw every single time.

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indigoneutrino October 3 2014, 18:51:50 UTC
I get what you're saying, but is that how the term "whump" can be applied? Isn't it usually where a writer puts a character through physical/psychological/emotional hell so they can do H/C that's very heavy on the H? That's what I always understood it to be. What you're describing sounds like simply writing the character fairly.

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yemi_hikari October 3 2014, 23:59:55 UTC
You're actually correct.

I had someone who couldn't fathom the difference between character bashing and not character bashing when it came to a character they liked. They claimed that said character shouldn't be treated as if she was childish and mature because she was just confused. Whump's the closest antonym one can get for character bashing.

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yemi_hikari October 3 2014, 18:23:41 UTC
I left some reviews on this one, but I feel like mentally scrubbing myself after going through chapter by chapter. After chapter three Elizabeth is turned into a sex slave that gets fucked every single chapter.

What happened to the original plot.

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ext_2118339 October 4 2014, 00:52:42 UTC
Plot???

Just an excuse for "forbidden" sexual fantasies. ;-)

Too bad some people abandon plots altogether once they start masturbating to their own fics. :P

Then again, I'm not sure that really "nasty" wank-fics really should be novella length. Dark sexual fantasies are better in small doses... less grime to scrub out of one's mind after a toss (Doesn't necessarily apply to a properly done BDSM fic with consensual Dom/Sub relationships).

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yemi_hikari October 4 2014, 06:28:47 UTC
I think it is more of a defense against getting the PWP label slapped onto the story. If a story digresses from having plot to no plot it is still PWP in my books.

I think they should be short simply because they will otherwise go on and on and end up being a never ending cycle that never ends up completed. I mean... how many of the pieces that aren't done in small doses ever finished? The only ones that get finished seem to be the ones that actually have plot build in.

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ext_2118339 October 4 2014, 07:24:44 UTC
Haha! So true... :D

I tried to write my one real lemonfic as a one-shot, then as a short, but it turned into a bloody novella because my characters like to actually do stuff besides have sex... :P (though they are having quite a lot of it ;-) ).

Which is annoying. I only wanted to write a quick Hentai experimentally without using any vulgarities and hackneyed euphemisms as practice for writing a sex scene which would fit into a proper story.

Big mistake on my part. I can't actually start a proper story without finishing it, especially in a (semi-)public forum once it has garnered lots of attention... :P So I've finished book 1 and now I'm working on book 2, driven by my compulsion for completion of a plot thread!

**headdesk**

Dammit! I've got my "real" fanfics to continue and complete...

I'm so ashamed! :P

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