He really is dangerous

Oct 31, 2016 12:31


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garote October 31 2016, 18:43:04 UTC
Nope, still a sure thing

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johnny9fingers October 31 2016, 19:15:34 UTC
That's not what some press over here are saying, though... alas and alack.

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hardblue October 31 2016, 21:36:04 UTC
What a season! Not long ago there was talk among Republicans that Trump perhaps should step aside, and now we have talk from Democrats that maybe Hillary should step aside.

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garote October 31 2016, 22:04:26 UTC
Pretty sure the only democrats saying that are hardcore Bernie fans trying for an 11th-hour resurrection :D

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hardblue October 31 2016, 23:09:39 UTC
Sanders seems to be keeping it on the down-low. I only hear people saying that maybe Kaine should be left to run at it. But, no, I take it you are in the consensus that Hillary will still win it, except, I imagine, for the concern that there might be a wild card, a bombshell, in this latest harvest of e-mails. There is no necessary reason to believe that there is, but you have to worry about it.

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garote November 1 2016, 08:19:33 UTC
No; I don't. At this point it is wayy too late for any scandal to move the numbers enough. (And it's definitely irrelevant to me, since I voted last week by mail.)

This "new batch of emails" thing is the last ballyhooed gasp of a dog that stopped hunting most of a year ago, when Bernie shouted "We're sick and tired of hearing about the damn emails." The GOP has shouted it from the rooftops top-volume, and the media has gathered one more highly profitable round of ad impressions from the reporting, but the needle is absolutely unmoved.

At this point, there are people to whom it matters, and people to whom it doesn't, and those groups have stopped changing, rendering the issue useless politically. But that fact does not bother Trump, and I think I know why.

Trump badgered the moderator of the town-hall debate only a few weeks ago, claiming that he wasn't bringing it up enough, after it had already been brought up again. (Compare and contrast with Bernie.) He knows it excites the base, and perhaps he has peripherally heard that ( ... )

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hardblue November 1 2016, 15:37:35 UTC
This has been my thought too, that he's just about Making Trump Great, but if this is right, it is interesting to note that there is some argument that he has hurt his brand, such that he has even stopped attaching his name to his projects. I am wondering if somewhere along the line, he kind of fell into this contest, so that winning it meant everything - even at the risk of hurting the Trump brand.

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garote November 1 2016, 19:16:30 UTC
Oh I don't think so. I think after a lifetime of being himself, the pursuit of attention and self-promotion is practically stamped into his genome by now. Whenever he hurts his brand it's just because he's doing it poorly ( ... )

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johnny9fingers November 2 2016, 12:07:55 UTC
What is the opinion today (2nd Nov)?

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johnny9fingers November 2 2016, 12:33:16 UTC
She is toxic.

But only because she has been painted as such for two decades. In reality, she is probably the cleanest candidate in decades, mainly because she can't fart without the Republicans calling for an investigation.

However, I think you are right. In normal times her toxicity, however acquired, would have made her the most unelectable candidate ever.

You guys have allowed your polity to be screwed by Rupert and Roger to such an extent that there will never now be a united United States. It will always be divided unless you can find someone to heal the breach. What the obfuscating and blocking Republicans did to Obama was, in hindsight, the exploratory vanguard for what will happen after Nov 8th. If the Donald loses, and refuses to acknowledge Hills victory, I'd guess there might be a few small skirmishes with extremely disaffected folk of a certain kind.

It's all total bloody madness. But you are left with a binary choice. And the rest of the world has to live with it.

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chron_job November 2 2016, 21:59:25 UTC
" to such an extent that there will never now be a united United States ( ... )

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