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udoswald August 30 2009, 19:47:11 UTC
...being harassed by thugs hired by insurance companies, and riled up by right-wing talk show hosts sponsored by insurance companies, who have no interest in hearing facts and just want to make sure nobody actually debates the issues.

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patriotress August 30 2009, 21:49:31 UTC
You seem very angry.

I am curious. Do you honestly believe that all the Americans who disagree with the health care proposals are simply thugs and have no valid concerns?

Is this how you feel about anyone who disagrees with anything Obama and his administration are doing, or does this "thug" characterization only apply to the opponents of Obama's healthcare?

Do you believe that the nearly half of the country who didn't happen to vote for Obama are not entitled to responsive representative government?

What about those who voted for Obama and yet disagree with the further Nationalization of healthcare? Should they, as simple "thugs", not have a voice, or are they entitled to participate in our Democracy and voice their complaints?

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udoswald August 30 2009, 21:59:27 UTC
Obviously not. Where in what I said does it say that? We haven't really seen any principled conservative commentary at the townhalls, maybe because the whacko squads have been drowning them out too, I guess we'll never know. If there are actually conservatives out there with a principled opposition, they're allowing Fox News and the thug squads to hijack their message. They have every right to stand up and be heard, as long as they are respectful, but to this point it seems they're content letting Glen Beck and the guys with guns do the talking for them. Prove me wrong ( ... )

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atreides74 August 30 2009, 22:16:12 UTC

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xxrancid_punkxx August 30 2009, 22:19:03 UTC
haha, I love the second one!!

Someone needs to get a restraining order on that crazy ex. She just won't go away!!

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udoswald August 30 2009, 22:36:46 UTC
That's great. I agree with xxrancid_punkxx, the second one is especially good.

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patriotress August 30 2009, 22:35:07 UTC
At least you are consistent.

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udoswald August 30 2009, 22:37:57 UTC
I refuse to sugar coat it for the idiot crowd. She is the worst thing to happen to American politics in decades.

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xforge August 30 2009, 23:07:17 UTC
She's not the cause, she's merely a symptom.

She's just evidence of what a massive fucking joke politics and for that matter celebrity have become, mostly in America but even worldwide.

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udoswald August 30 2009, 23:13:01 UTC
Just because the children following willingly doesn't mean the Pied Piper isn't responsible for leading them.

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xxrancid_punkxx August 31 2009, 00:05:27 UTC
Spot on. She's also an example of how stupid the American people are. One would think the things she did and said would cause people to flee her campaign like rats from a sinking ship, yet there are still around 39% of people polled who have a "favorable" opinion of her ( ... )

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patriotress August 31 2009, 00:08:49 UTC
This is the way liberals argue. I get that. Everyone is an idiot if they don't see it your way. Opposing opinions don't count. If I admire someone you don't like, that only "proves" that you're right, I'm wrong, and you can ignore me. There isn't much logic to it, but that's your version of logic.

In case you think a non-response means I agree with your assertions about Palin, I don't. Liberals are afraid of her pure and simple. They hounded her until she no longer had the freedom to function faithfully as governor. Stepping down as governor may possibly do damage to any future prospects she may have in political life, but who knows.

Don't think I didn't notice how you sidestepped the questions I asked you by your turning the focus to my "icon". The icon is nothing more than an excuse for you to avoid using my questions for some self reflection.

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xxrancid_punkxx August 31 2009, 00:29:56 UTC
Liberals are afraid of her pure and simple.

You are right on that one. She scares the shit out of me. Look how much damage the last guy did. He was dumb, but at least he wasn't a half term governor and he was the manager with a baseball team. That's more experience than mayor and half term governor of the middle of nowhere. Also, even though they were evil and had agendas of their own, at least Bush was smart enough to surround himself with qualified, experienced people ( ... )

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udoswald August 31 2009, 00:45:10 UTC
No, there are people who I disagree with on a myriad of issues who I nevertheless consider to be relatively intelligent people. Palin supporters, however, are just idiots. There is nothing redeeming about this woman. Almost everything about her is fake, designed to create this Anchorage Barbie persona, and the stuff that's real is even scarier than the fake stuff. There are only two reasons to support her, either you're in on the scam and stand to make money off of it or you're one of the morons who bought the act. There's no other option ( ... )

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udoswald August 30 2009, 22:45:21 UTC
That's me, Mr. Consistent. I'm the Cal Ripken Jr. of not taking sh*t from whackjobs.

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patriotress August 31 2009, 00:19:15 UTC
Yes, anyone who doesn't see it your way is a "whackjob", a "thug", basically any slur that signifies they are less than human and undeserving of a civilized response.

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