look, the pie!

[pocochina]

It seems my psychosomatic Christmas avoidance flu was in fact the actual flu and all I've been any good for in the past week or so is watching Game of Thrones on a loop. And a little quality self-pity, but mostly Game of Thrones.

So, December Talking Meme is officially a January talking meme.

But I do have a few stray thought about GoT that I want

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[noybusiness]

Part of that may be because Ned himself was a second son who never expected to inherit, just be a loyal brother to Brandon and loyal friend to Robert. It's not as though the North doesn't have its own internal politicking, so it's not because they're Northerners.

Sansa and Arya seem to have been raised with the expectation that ladies are proper and don't do things like politicking and alliances. Which seems to be the official line in Westeros, even though it's not the reality. Most of those ladies who do these things in Westeros seem to be self-taught by experience and observation (apart from Margaery having Olenna as a mentor) and it isn't advertised. So it looks like there's a dissonance between Catelyn's own understanding of the world and the traditional upbringing she gave Sansa and tried to give Arya. That's a feature of Cat's character, I think. There's a difference between how her role is and how she would ideally want to describe it. Of course, I'm speaking as someone who's read her POV chapters in the books, where you get a broader look at her thoughts and how traditional values factor into them - like concern for how things are supposed to be done when a lord has a bastard and the rights of her own children playing into her attitude towards Jon.

Sansa did have Jeyne Poole and others as companions, and Jeyne at least accompanied her to King's Landing, but the show didn't show her after the Lannisters' coup against Ned. There may have been some unnamed extras I'm not remembering too, or not. Sansa's social circle was clearer in the book.