GoT S3: the court of the North

[pocochina]

A few thoughts about episode 3x9, a LOT of thoughts about Catelyn, and a very few thoughts about Robb.

Comments

[pocochina]

It was awesome! I think self-absorption is one thing fandom keeps reacting maybe differently towards women and men on that issue. (now I like self-absorbed characters, as in characterization and being fascinating) --but I do think most characters and people do have that aspect, it just depends on how it is used or maybe they try to moderate it. But it is human and it's weird for it to be denied to a woman in fiction. :/

YES. Because it's not a problem with Cat, it's a pattern you could probably find-and-replace from any number of fandoms and get the gist. like. Catelyn is medieval AU Elena Gilbert to me. A couple of decades more mature, obvs, but I think they have quite similar backgrounds, of being well-suited to and well-loved in their socially privileged environments; I think they have the same fierce attachment to Their People (and protectiveness of the framework for Their Status). And I think that resulting tunnel vision and pack-mentality moral code in female characters just does not compute for some segments of audiences. She's too selfless! She's such a bitch! She's so boring! She can't possibly be morally gray, that's against the rules!

[bellonablack]

Wow. That is a great parallel between the characters. I could so see Elena taking on a Catelyn role, and YES, to the word pack-mentality! XD

And no, it really doesn't. in any form, in most fandoms. Or else, it's always highlighted and noted more in the women. Some traits are even shared by the guys in the media and everyone who complains about most 'bad' traits can be found in a guy too, and it's not commented on nearly as much, no. :/

People just get more sincerely angry or put off by it :/