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[pocochina]

This is one of those big discomforts where I....feel like there's no @anyone to throw this at but I feel weird not saying it? disturbing content, obviously.

[TVD S3 finale spoilers]

I'm seeing a lot of worry about the implications of any Klaus-in-Tyler sexual activity which turn entirely on the general creepiness of Klaus and his infatuation with Caroline, and very little

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[pocochina]

It's sort of an escalation to the max of what happened on her birthday, although there are differences too, obviously.

Exactly. And Klaus absolutely loves using Tyler to get at Caroline, because it feeds his whole delusion about being this romantic figure in her life, and because he knows it's the easiest way to increase his psychological control over Tyler. It's the same game he played even more effectively on Stefan. Klaus is an awesome villain to me not necessarily because he's scary or effective to any particular ends, sometimes he is and sometimes he isn't, but because he's really, really good at screwing with people's psychological autonomy like this.

words about having more confidence in the show's handling of Tyler's abuse narrative gives me hope that they won't be too gross about it: my worst fears are making meYeah, I mean, no argument with that on principle. IMO it's tough to be too skeptical of showrunners, particularly on this type of stuff. But there is a consistency with this character arc which makes me personally

[pocochina]

It's sort of similar to Richard Lockwood inciting Tyler and Jeremy to fight in The Turning Point? I don't know if that's an intentional parallel on the part of the show, though. Maybe I am giving them too much credit, heh.

Oh, I think it is absolutely intentional, or at least, the parallels come from the show intentionally telling this story with a lot of characters. I'm especially inclined to think that because of how much time we spent in S3 hammering home the issues with Mikael. I think it's a real high-wire act to explain Klaus without excusing him, and therefore keep Tyler's story clear and sympathetic without creating any free passes for the character, but it's a huge part of what I've enjoyed about the show so far, at least.

Given that I've seen debate on messageboards over whether Caroline is being violated or not (I kid you not)

This is why I love my BUBBLE.

[callmeonetrack]

Ha ha. Was coming here to tell Pocochina she should be following you.

NEVERMIND! :)

[pocochina]