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Feb 01, 2011 14:30

I’m trying to pull myself together to do the 30 Days of Awesome Ladies meme, because, WE’VE ALL MET, RIGHT? (I can’t bring myself to start posting it until my ramblings on Tara, Darla, and maybe Dru are actual respectable posts because I haven’t ever actually put together my thoughts on my girls and I want to try to do them justice, so we’ll see) ( Read more... )

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blackfrancine February 1 2011, 22:07:02 UTC
Oh my God. I love you times a eleventy billion.

This is just brilliance--and I didn't even read the BSG part! Which--thank you! I swear I'm going to watch BSG sometime soon.

And I know this was just a little grace note in your essay--but How I Met Your Mother. You hit the nail on the head. As much as I love that show--and that is a pretty healthy amount--I'm finding the misogyny to be less and less tolerable. Because holy crap do I love me some Robin Sherbosky. She is HANDS DOWN my favorite woman on television right now (or at least that I'm watching)--And I almost went on a killing spree during the episode where Ted tells her that she doesn't need dudes enough, and that's why she's not desirable. I know--the point of the episode was supposed to be that too much neediness is bad, and that Barney loved Robin's independence. Yadda yadda yadda. BUT THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. So the fuck what Barney liked Robin's independence? They already figured out that they can't be together. So the only dude in the world (who--by the way ( ... )

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local_max February 2 2011, 03:12:16 UTC
Ugh, I hate Ted so much. Though admittedly some of this is my annoyance at the show's structure. I get angry on behalf of his kids over hearing these meandering stories under false pretenses. OH YEAH, I MET HER IN A COFFEE SHOP THE END, HOPE YOU ENJOYED ME STRINGING YOU ALONG.

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blackfrancine February 2 2011, 04:09:46 UTC
OH MY GOD YES. What teenager would seriously sit there and listen to all these pointless stories?

That structure is just way too gimmicky for my taste.

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angearia February 2 2011, 04:26:36 UTC
It's like the structure demands that he be a jerk. Because has to go through so many effed up relationships that he is responsible in part for messing up.

I dunno. I've never vocalized how much he bothers me before. This is strange.

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angearia February 2 2011, 04:14:38 UTC
HAHA THE FOUR OF US ARE TED-HATING SOULMATES. I SHOULD'VE KNOWN. WAIT, WHAT DOES OHWAL THINK?

That's an interesting point about the structure. I tend to tune that shit out because SHUT UP TED but actually yeah, it is annoying.

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ever_neutral February 2 2011, 04:20:14 UTC
Heh. I don't hate Ted? SORRY!! I have not seen that episode you speak of though (yet), so...

As far as I know though, hating Ted is not an unpopular opinion.

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angearia February 2 2011, 04:21:58 UTC
HOW DARE YOU?

Haha, but do you hate anyone? You're supernatural in your ability to not get your hate-on (with fictional characters, at least). :D

As far as I know though, hating Ted is not an unpopular opinion.

There go my delusions of originality!

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ever_neutral February 2 2011, 05:05:54 UTC
lol. I do not really hate many characters, I don't think...

Wait. I hate Bella Swan. Yeah. Oh, also Clark Kent's holier-than-thou dad on Smallville. I used to kind of hate Fred Burkle, but then I changed my mind. Oh, and I also hate Rona the useless Potential, and sometimes I hate Joyce.

There you go. :) :) :)

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pocochina February 2 2011, 05:20:30 UTC
ha. I was kind of assuming you to be a comrade in Bill Hate. But I thoroughly admit that to have been a projection.

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ever_neutral February 2 2011, 07:13:12 UTC
OH YEAH HIM. No, I'm with you.

Except in all honesty, I am too busy lol'ing to work myself up to hate him. Bitch ain't worth it.

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pocochina February 2 2011, 07:34:53 UTC
haha. Fair enough. I admire but cannot share your level-headedness. ROBERTO MENDOZA YOU HAVE FALLEN SO FAR.

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angearia February 2 2011, 05:58:23 UTC
ur such a hater

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blackfrancine February 5 2011, 04:04:31 UTC
Oh, also Clark Kent's holier-than-thou dad on Smallville.

AHAHAHA! YES. That's so funny. Because I never really thought about whether I liked him or not--but as soon as you said that, some sort of deep-buried hatred flared up in my soul. And I was like: YES. ME TOO. I'VE HATED HIM ALL THIS TIME AND NEVER REALIZED IT.

But... I'm the one person in the world who doesn't hate Bella Swan. I mean--she's annoying as all heck. But, I choose to hate Edward. Because Bella is just a messed up kid. She's mopey and depressed and insecure. And so of course she's a spineless idiot when her abusive, controlling boyfriend is anywhere near her.

I have no idea why I'm defending Bella to you (I think I'm just really bored). Please, forget this ever happened. Carry on with your hating.

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ever_neutral February 5 2011, 14:15:44 UTC
And I was like: YES. ME TOO. I'VE HATED HIM ALL THIS TIME AND NEVER REALIZED IT.

LOL. SOLIDARITY.

No no wait a mo lemme explain about Bella. I am actually with you - for the first 3 books. (And I am going to assume you are savvy with the whole series here. If not, spoilers.) Everyone generally hates her from the first page on, but I did not. Yeah sure she was annoying, but I didn't hold it against her. I figured she'd grow up and learn from her mistakes.

The moment I start to actually hate her, is in fucking Breaking Dawn when she actually gets everything she wants, becomes a vampire, realizes she's now ~amazingly gorgeous~ and becomes insufferably vain. Like, BAM. I'M GORGEOUS. INSECURITIES GONE. FALALALA EVERYTHING IS HOW IT SHOULD BE. I HAVE JUST ABOUT BETRAYED EVERY (living) PERSON IN MY LIFE BY MAKING THIS CHOICE BUT OH WELL. PRIORITIES. And SMeyer pretty much gives her a pass on any of the consequences becoming a vampire would have (losing her family/friends, not being able to have children, etc.), so my hatred of Bella is ( ... )

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blackfrancine February 2 2011, 03:16:25 UTC
I'll tell you what I don't like about Ted: That he's basically like every female rom com character from the 80s and 90s--only he's a dude. So, instead of finding his absurd desire for ROMANCE idiotic and trite and girly, we're supposed to find it progressive and endearing. It's disgusting. If a female character were to behave the way Ted does, pursuing marriage relentlessly, forsaking everything else--she'd be a punchline. But Ted is the protagonist.

Furthermore, it's just not practical--his bizarre pursuit of "Love." And he's so douchey to so many of the girls he dates, and yet I'm supposed to feel bad for HIM? Please.

AND! The whole thing couldn't be LESS romantic. It's gross, really. Shopping for a spouse. Hoping that every girl you meet will be The One. Yuck. Not romantic. Then as a girl, there's not the *magic* of sweeping someone away with your charms--it's that he was looking to be swept away. Nowhere near as fun.

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pocochina February 2 2011, 03:57:02 UTC
HA HA EXACTLY. BRIDGET JONES IS LIKE "SUCK IT UP, NERD!"

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