My personal opinion, for the two cents it's worthwaterlillyFebruary 20 2006, 07:03:23 UTC
I suppose it's politics and drama as usual, considering how stuff has been for the past five years or so. I don't know if it's more serious than the last big tempest in this particular teapot or not. And I am not without biases on the people involved. You will forgive me if I speak somewhat in generalities. If you want more particulars, call me. But anyway, what I think, in a nutshell:
I've been involved with CMA since roughly 1989. We had trouble occasionally before we bought the land, but ever since, it seems like all we do is form factions about what's to be done with and about the land. It doesn't matter if it's about who's done more work on the land and sees themselves as worth more than people who have not, or about what can be done or needs to be done, or (now) the question of whether or not we sell it in what looks to me like a deal that has TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE written all over it in giant hot pink letters. And if I thought everyone in the situation was being entirely open and honest and fully disclosing their allegiances and motives to everyone involved, then I'd be less worried. But frankly, I'm worried.
And meanwhile, the political climate is more than ever one where no one is allowed to openly criticize anyone else ("think of the community!" everyone wails, "we must all agree and love each other!!"), but then if people dare to speak amongst their own friends about what they think is happening, and someone hears about it who wasn't on the list or whose ox was gored in the process, the speaker is still character assassinated for it even if what they said was the truth, or even the honest truth as they saw it.
Is it worse than the last time? I'm not sure. I don't personally have all the information. I think things are worse financially than most people know. And I think we could be in danger of losing the land, which would end the organization as we know it. But what's really going on or what's really going to happen this event, this time, this turn of this particular wheel, I don't know.
Re: My personal opinion, for the two cents it's worthpixie1771February 21 2006, 17:44:40 UTC
I agree that a lot of the drama escalated once we bought the land. I personally think we should have waited to buy it, but that's how it works.
I agree about the open dissention as well. It is like with some folks they can't understand the fact that if I speak an opinion about something I'm not trying to attack them, I'm trying to offer a different path. That's all. Is it really that hard for some people to just get that, and move on? Apparently so.
The thing is, it isn't just in the pagan community, that's what really worries me.
I've been involved with CMA since roughly 1989. We had trouble occasionally before we bought the land, but ever since, it seems like all we do is form factions about what's to be done with and about the land. It doesn't matter if it's about who's done more work on the land and sees themselves as worth more than people who have not, or about what can be done or needs to be done, or (now) the question of whether or not we sell it in what looks to me like a deal that has TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE written all over it in giant hot pink letters. And if I thought everyone in the situation was being entirely open and honest and fully disclosing their allegiances and motives to everyone involved, then I'd be less worried. But frankly, I'm worried.
And meanwhile, the political climate is more than ever one where no one is allowed to openly criticize anyone else ("think of the community!" everyone wails, "we must all agree and love each other!!"), but then if people dare to speak amongst their own friends about what they think is happening, and someone hears about it who wasn't on the list or whose ox was gored in the process, the speaker is still character assassinated for it even if what they said was the truth, or even the honest truth as they saw it.
Is it worse than the last time? I'm not sure. I don't personally have all the information. I think things are worse financially than most people know. And I think we could be in danger of losing the land, which would end the organization as we know it. But what's really going on or what's really going to happen this event, this time, this turn of this particular wheel, I don't know.
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I agree about the open dissention as well. It is like with some folks they can't understand the fact that if I speak an opinion about something I'm not trying to attack them, I'm trying to offer a different path. That's all. Is it really that hard for some people to just get that, and move on? Apparently so.
The thing is, it isn't just in the pagan community, that's what really worries me.
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