Won't someone think of the children! If they get married they'll make all the children gay and then the world will cease to be populated and humanity will die off..or something!!! I don't think I could love you more than I do right now. And I love your snark.
The government's only role in marriage should be in establishing the legal and binding contract of marriage for everyone regardless of gender and the dissolution of that contract if people decide to get divorced (like soooo many straight couples do). Is the logic of this so obvious that it somehow blinds people? To this whole entry, I say AMEN!
Is the logic of this so obvious that it somehow blinds people?
You know...maybe..yes?! I don't think most people really stop to think what they are advocating by not supporting equal rights. I think people get stuck on their own values and bypass logic. Snark aside, I really do respect different view points. I get that many people have a fundamental opposition to homosexuality. But gay people exist...and denying them rights...basic rights...is wrong.
I'm a fairly passive agressive person & it takes a lot to get me to raise my voice. That said, I got into a screaming match (well, I was shouting, he didn't really raise his voice) over the phone with my almost was stepfather who lives in CA and is planning on voting yes on prop 8. The kicker: his daughter is gay.
Gah! How frustrating. I'm lucky that I live in area where I am basically preaching to the choir...but last weekend while visiting my folks in the CA central valley I saw so much support for Prop 8. It really scared me.
Someone on my friends list linked to a video that a girl took of some of the crazies out protesting. One of the crazies actually went grabbed the phone she was using away from her & almost broke it in half. Lucky, one of the counterprotestors came over & diffused the situation.
First, *squeezes you really tight because it's great to see you post*
Second, you are so right. I really don't understand why people forget about the "separation of church and state" part of our country. Defining a marriage is for religion. Recongizing legal rights should be something that states do without discrimination.
Separation of church and sate is such a fundamental...but I swear there are groups of people amend that to 'separation of everyone else's church but mine and state.'
The thing that burns me the most is that it is LITERALLY unconstitutional to discriminate like this, it violates CA's (and every other state's) equal protection clause, which is the reasoning the majority used in the Supreme Court decision in May. I need to sit down with one of my law professors and ask how the hell it is allowed to write in discrimination in the constitution, because constitutional law is next semester and I don't know that yet. And this state is going to be chaos if that piece of legal bigotry does pass. Will the marriages that have already taken place be rendered invalid? And if they're not, that means we've got gay couples who were allowed to get married, and gay couples who are no longer allowed to get married. It's just so, so ridiculous.
Lovely to see you back, and even lovelier to have it be in the form of a rant that I've been ranting over and over.
Secondly, please let me know if/when you find out the answer because I just can't understand it. It feels like there should be a slew of constitutional (state and federal) lawyers and experts just fighting this because it is so wrong and should be illegal. But I see so much support for Prop 8...and not enough opposition.
piece of legal bigotry
That is such as scary description...but so very apt.
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I don't think I could love you more than I do right now. And I love your snark.
The government's only role in marriage should be in establishing the legal and binding contract of marriage for everyone regardless of gender and the dissolution of that contract if people decide to get divorced (like soooo many straight couples do).
Is the logic of this so obvious that it somehow blinds people? To this whole entry, I say AMEN!
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Is the logic of this so obvious that it somehow blinds people?
You know...maybe..yes?! I don't think most people really stop to think what they are advocating by not supporting equal rights. I think people get stuck on their own values and bypass logic. Snark aside, I really do respect different view points. I get that many people have a fundamental opposition to homosexuality. But gay people exist...and denying them rights...basic rights...is wrong.
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I'm a fairly passive agressive person & it takes a lot to get me to raise my voice. That said, I got into a screaming match (well, I was shouting, he didn't really raise his voice) over the phone with my almost was stepfather who lives in CA and is planning on voting yes on prop 8. The kicker: his daughter is gay.
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Second, you are so right. I really don't understand why people forget about the "separation of church and state" part of our country. Defining a marriage is for religion. Recongizing legal rights should be something that states do without discrimination.
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Separation of church and sate is such a fundamental...but I swear there are groups of people amend that to 'separation of everyone else's church but mine and state.'
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Lovely to see you back, and even lovelier to have it be in the form of a rant that I've been ranting over and over.
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Secondly, please let me know if/when you find out the answer because I just can't understand it. It feels like there should be a slew of constitutional (state and federal) lawyers and experts just fighting this because it is so wrong and should be illegal. But I see so much support for Prop 8...and not enough opposition.
piece of legal bigotry
That is such as scary description...but so very apt.
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