A Suit and Tie Type Thing, GG, PG, Chapter 3

[piratelf]

Title: A Suit and Tie Type Thing, Chapter 3
Author: Piratelf
Rating: PG
Fandom: Gilmore Girls
Genre: Gen, Het, Narco, JavaJunkie
Disclaimer: I do not own the Gilmore Girls Characters. No money will be made from this work. I'm really not worth suing, honestly.
Beta: Nadnewraid
Xposted to: deanfest_2007, gg_fic, narcoleptics
Author's Notes: Nothing special for this chapter,

Comments

I've been batting this back and forth in my mind

[anonymous]

And, while I've since changed my position on the validity of Dean's reservations (I now agree), I still can't bring myself to judge Rory too harshly.

She always wanted a big, happy family. Now, she has the chance for one. And sometimes, when you want something so, so bad, you can lose sight of what's really important to you.

Fanfiction doesn't usually cause me to switch to "philosopher" mode, so kudos to you.

Re: I've been batting this back and forth in my mind

[piratelf]

I don't judge Rory TOO harshly, I don't think. I feel that she was raised to be very, unthinkingly, selfish. Both she and Lorelai would do almost anything anyone asked of them, BUT they also think nothing of imposing on other people. Waking Sookie up at midnight because they think they hear termites, staring at people to get them to leave so that they can have a table at Luke's, eating during town meetings, ect. Rory's biggest problem, I feel, is that she displays a lack of empathy for other people's feelings. She regularly ignores or is unconcerned about major things in Lane's life, anytime that Lorelai fights with one of her parents, and Rory is not involved, all she wants is for the fight to be over, she doesn't care who hurt whom. Same whenever Lorelai and Luke fight

Ultimately, it's Lorelai's fault

[anonymous]

Now, I'm not saying that Rory doesn't have to be responsible for her actions, because she sure as Hell does, but the root of the problem is that Lorelai, in this regard, at least, just didn't bring Rory up properly

Re: Ultimately, it's Lorelai's fault

[piratelf]

Development disorders like this are often genetic, and since I've observed nothing of this kind in Richard or Emily, it's possible that it, like the GGs quirkiness, is a result of the inbreeding on Richard's side of the family.Yes! I love that idea

Re: Ultimately, it's Lorelai's fault

[anonymous]

She would definitely benefit from a nice, long vist to a psychiatrist's office.

Re: Ultimately, it's Lorelai's fault

[2wingo]

I finally got around to getting an account.

Even though Lorelai's relationship with her parents leaves a lot to be desired, certain spots suggest that ultimately, she loves them (her reaction during Richard's heart attack, the way she vehemently attacked Digger for making Emily cancel her party, and hers and Emily's little moments during "Rory's Dance").

She just can't relate to them on their terms, nor they on hers, and with neither willing to compromise, so it shall always be.

Re: Ultimately, it's Lorelai's fault

[piratelf]

I finally got around to getting an account.

About time!

I completely agree that in the end Lorelai loves her parents and Richard and Emily love her.

She just can't relate to them on their terms, nor they on hers, and with neither willing to compromise, so it shall always be.

Can't say it better than that!

Regarding Rory's supposed lack of Empathy

[2wingo]

While I agree that she was short-changed in that department, I'd stop short of saying that she was completely devoid of it (I don't know if that's what you've been saying, but that's how it comes across), even when she was at her worst. After all, remember her little speech in Season 1, Episode 21:

"Sometimes you have something you need to say but you can’t because the words won’t come out or you get scared or feel stupid. So, if you could write a song and sing it, then you could say what you need to say. And it would be beautiful. And people would listen. And you wouldn't make a complete idiot out of yourself, but all of us can't be songwriters, so some of us will never be able to say what we’re thinking or what we want other people to know that we’re thinking, so we’ll never get the chance to make things right again. Ever."

Re: Regarding Rory's supposed lack of Empathy

[piratelf]

In that speech though she's just describing her own situation, she's not actually talking about anyone else. So I don't know that it counts as empathy.

I should clarify that Rory has plenty of sympathy for other people and their situations and problems, and I can't say she has no empathy for anyone in any situation whatsoever, but she certainly never has any empathy for Dean when she is treating him badly. She never seems to stop and think how he feels. And she displays the same sort of lack of empathy with Lane. The storyline when Lane's parents are sending her to Korea and won't tell her when she's coming back is the epitome of this to me.

Re: Ultimately, it's Lorelai's fault

[2wingo]

Now that I've seen "Scene in a Mall," I realize that it may not be entirely from Richard's side of the family. the way Emily acts often (not sometimes, OFTEN) borders on deranged. It's pretty safe to say that Lorelai got crazy genes from both sides of the family.

Re: Ultimately, it's Lorelai's fault

[piratelf]

I'd go along with that too. Where the hell were Emily's parents? The one sister that we hear about went to live in France, and apparently Emily hasn't seen her in quite a while.

What are they hiding????

Re: Ultimately, it's Lorelai's fault

[2wingo]

Maybe they're distant relatives of Charles Manson?

Or maybe . . .

[2wingo]

They're members of that weird religious sect in the JCVD movie "The Order," and they're hiding this fact until they're ready to conquer the world!