Down with corporatization and profit.

Oct 24, 2004 21:18

You need to go see the movie Super Size Me. Right now. Blockbuster, Superstar Video, Hollywood Video.. anywhere.

Go.

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like_atlas October 24 2004, 18:49:25 UTC
As a Capitalist, I must disagree with your estimation of profit. There's NOTHING wrong with profit. Unjust working conditions? Absolutely. Interference of individual rights? Definately. But those who denounce profit encourage an equal economic footing for all, correct? Those who work hard have the fruit of their labor delivered to the hands of the unskilled and the unwilling simply because they need it. Being free means the freedom to ACT, not to gain without acting. If you work hard, and honestly, then gain all the profit you can, and be proud of it. But to hell with those who sit back and whine about the evil nature of the world, and think that they should be handed the fruits of other people's labors ( ... )

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pianojet October 25 2004, 09:58:45 UTC
Hmmh. interesting ( ... )

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like_atlas October 25 2004, 13:26:05 UTC
Well stated ( ... )

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pianojet October 25 2004, 16:11:36 UTC
Indeed ( ... )

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like_atlas October 25 2004, 21:34:42 UTC
"if one works for just profit (and i've basically been talking only in terms of monetary profit) this can lead to bad things."

Perhaps. I'm not decided on it. I know that love of one's work does not rule out the desire to make a profit for doing that work. It also does not rule out wanting to make the best possible profit. Doing what you intend to do is the purpose of man's productive ability. Profit is the result.

"I am saying that we should take away monetary profit as the reason to do anything all together."

I do not agree with this philosophy. I think that, rationally, monetary profit is not the only motivator of one's work, but there's nothing wrong with taking it into consideration. Indeed, most often profit will be taken into consideration. Profit is not evil, and should in no way be taken out of the picture.

"They do it to provide students with a quality education, and they care about the students. . . Teachers that don't like what they are paid . . . think that their sorrows justify not working any more than what ( ... )

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pianojet October 26 2004, 07:37:04 UTC
I'll say it again ( ... )

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like_atlas October 26 2004, 21:14:03 UTC
Actually, they make a distinct "pamphlet" with that speech available. If you go to www.aynrand.org, you can order a free "Ayn Rand Sampler". It includes that passage.

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pianojet October 25 2004, 16:11:59 UTC
"In a free market, the companies that choose to be unethical and not consider a public's needs will most likely go out of business." On the contrary, there are many companies that do not consider a public's needs. They are only considering what people want. McDonalds, Walmart, Britney Spears, movie theaters, basically any other company ( ... )

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like_atlas October 25 2004, 22:03:23 UTC
You refuted my free market comment by stating: On the contrary, there are many companies that do not consider a public's needs. They are only considering what people want. McDonalds, Walmart, Britney Spears, movie theaters, basically any other company.

I agree with you. Most companies today are exactly as you described them. I, however, am referring to a free market. I believe I stated in that comment that America right now is a mixed economy. Companies such as McDonald's can do what they do because of government aid, protection and handouts ( ... )

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