忏悔日 Confession Day by 林笛 Lín Dí

Feb 23, 2009 16:14

So it took a Chinese song to teach me what Shrove Tuesday is... keke.

Wiki says it's the term used in Ireland, the United Kingdom, and Australia for Mardi Gras or Fat Tuesday.  "Shrove is the past tense for "shrive" - which means to obtain absolution for one's sins by confessing and doing penance.  Shrove Tuesday gets its name for the shriving ( ( Read more... )

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echowillow February 24 2009, 06:03:58 UTC
ooh, this song is lovely! I'm not familar with indie bands at all, you've showed me great stuff :D

can I say, I'm so happy that your post did appear on my f-list for once! lolz

I think confess and repent give different meanings in a cultural context. Confession has a religious implication. In this case maybe Lin Di is expressing her remorse for her certain thoughts and actions. She is repenting but she is not confessing ;D (and the idea of confession was only brought into eastern culture from the west later on). Thats just a thought, just me trying to find a reason not to study. haha.

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dustthouart February 24 2009, 16:28:52 UTC
Chanhui itself can mean repentance, but chanhui ri means something specific. And on their own website, Cold Fairyland itself translates it as Shrove Tuesday. So I think they looked up chanhui ri in their Chinese-English dictionary and got "Shrove Tuesday" (which they would get; I got it when I looked up chanhui ri in my dictionary; it's the term we use in Chinese Christianity), and then looked up just "chanhui" and got "repentance" as an option as well as "confession" and didn't realize that in this case "confession" was the only way to go.

And actually, and this is really interesting and I need to look into it further, I have heard that some sects of Buddhism actually had a confession ceremony that they called chanhui as well. But I only know that from my dictionary which had, under translations for chanhui, in addition to "repentance", "confession", "remorse" and "Catholic ritual of repentance", it had "Buddhist ceremony of repentance". I want to find out more about that ( ... )

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echowillow March 2 2009, 06:57:16 UTC
I think it really really depends on the context. I totally understand what you're getting at. In the context of Christianity, chanhui ri is Confession Day, no doubt about it. But looking at the lyrics to the other songs, they seem more incline towards eastern spirituality, very Zenish. I see the words reincarnation and nirvana. To keep into the theme, I think to translation it as repentance instead of confession is pretty apt ( ... )

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pho50 February 24 2009, 17:19:35 UTC
I totally get what you're saying :) I have that whole album if you want it. It's kind of interesting. From what I've read online, for the album that song is from (10 Days in Magic Land) Lin Di was commissioned to interpret poetry of Chen Song. I'm guessing the lyrics are the actual poems but I'm not sure. But Lin Di even provided translations for the instrumental songs so I'm guessing they are the actual poems. I'll have to look up Chen Song and see if I find anything.

Haha, we're in the same boat - you should be studying and I should be working!

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echowillow March 2 2009, 06:32:20 UTC
I was wondering who is Chen Song. Do you happen to know his name written in chinese? ooh, I would love to have the album :D I'm not sure if I can download the whole thing though (uni internet doesn't allow me to download much, lolz). Maybe you could recommend a few. I would love to listen more.

You're watching Boys over Flowers?!! Did you watch the Japanese version? Wonder how is it in comparision. Though I'm not fond of Korean dramas & the language, hehe, so probably won't watch. But everyone is watching it :D I wouldn't be able to wait for subs either, knowing me, my interest would have wane if I wait. Hope Zeni Geba is turning out to your liking! I'm currently in a Mei-chan phase (points to icon). How shallow can I get. haha.

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pho50 March 3 2009, 17:10:49 UTC
I tried to find info on Chen Song before I made this post. I googled and googled lol, even googled the text of the song in Chinese but nothing. I'll let you know if I ever find anything. I'll upload a few more songs for you real soon. (I'm at work now ( ... )

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