stumbling toward normalcy

[pellucid]

In a few short hours, I'm going CLIMBING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For the first time in six months (and it's been longer than that since I was climbing regularly). I'm kind of terrified by how out of shape I'll be but mostly SO EXCITED

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[aurora_novarum]

Buffy and Joss I think in general is very much a...well I think it's like British humor, or maybe Farscape. You either get it, or you don't. I tried watching Buffy a few times, and thought it was absolute drivel. Then I caught a couple eps on a marathon when I was home sick one day and there was just a moment where the irreverent wink side-by-side with the playing the totally straight horror matched up and I *got* it.

I really enjoyed Buffy. Thought Angel was so so. Loved Firefly, and watched one Season of Dollhouse in a bit of a train wreck effect thinking it has to get better than this. There has to be a payoff, right? I think Whedon is talented, but I definitely don't worship at the altar of Joss. ;-)

I love your shmoopy ship and angsty gen brain!

Yay, Ellison!

[pellucid]

I have seen all of two episodes of Buffy, and those were early s1 eps, which I know is not the show's strong suit. So it's entirely possible that I would like it quite a lot if I could ever get myself in the mood to watch it. But among the things I don't get are the appeal of vampires and stories about high schoolers. (Friday Night Lights is a partial exception to the latter, though it's still the adults I like best in that show.) I mean, intellectually I get the appeal of vampires, but mostly just...no. And I think one has to be initially invested, at least to some extent, in the trope itself before the campy subversion of the trope really works.

Maybe someday I will get around to Buffy. But I'm not holding my breath at this point, and I'm increasingly okay with that!

Yay Ellison, indeed!!!!

[surreallis]

Number 3. YES. I felt like I was the only person in fandom who had never seen Buffy and had no desire to. I'm sure it's very good and I'm glad it spoke to people so strongly, but ehhh. People keep telling me I simply MUST watch it, and I kind of think, ehhh, no, I don't think I really do.

It is nice to know that I'm not the only one. ;)

[stlscape]

Then there're three of us. :) I've caught the odd episode here and there, but nothing's attracted me enough to inspire me to watch more.

[pellucid]

I have seen a couple of episodes, but they were early season 1 eps, which I recognize are not representative of the show as a whole. And I didn't even dislike them, or anything like that, and I completely believe everyone who loves it. Nor am I ruling out the possibility that given the right opportunity (ie, probably someone sitting me down and saying, "we're going to watch this") that I would watch and love it. But the premise just doesn't appeal at all, and I've been lukewarm about other Whedon stuff I've seen, and, well, there are a lot of other things that are higher on the to-watch list.

So yeah. Solidarity in Buffy apathy! Or something like that. ;)

[gabolange]

I totally stalled out about five episodes in to Buffy. I mean, David Boreanaz is hot and all, but . . . if I want to watch David Boreanaz being hot, I can watch Bones, where I like everybody else, too. Yeah. I think my moment for Buffy was ten years ago, and that ship has sailed.

You know, I don't know if I have a least-favorite member of the SG-1 team. Because I don't like Daniel very much, but he fascinates me. And it took me a while to warm up to Cam, but now I want to keep him under my pillow, and I have not-dissimilar feelings about Teal'c. Does Jonas count? I love them all! :)

[pellucid]

Well, it's not like I don't like Jack quite a lot, especially in seasons 1-6 or so. He's part of the recipe that makes the team the team and makes them awesome and all that. But I think the difference between him and everyone else (except perhaps Jonas--possibly I lied and Jonas would rank a bit lower on the scale, though I liked Jonas, too) is that I have very little investment in Jack as an individual. Mostly I like him in relation to everyone else, and when he stopped being the same character, once RDA's investment started to wane, I stopped wanting him around because he was no longer contributing to my happy, teamy dynamic. And that's what clued me in to the fact that I didn't so much care about Jack qua Jack

[sdwolfpup]

Ellison is such a good choice!

I didn't know you hadn't seen Buffy! Interesting. I haven't watched it since I stopped vidding it, really. I'll have to go back and see if it holds up to my memories of it.

[pellucid]

I've been re-watching TSCC with my friend R., and I just keep loving Ellison (and also Sarah, and really the whole show) more and more, and I didn't think that was possible! Still so sad that we didn't get a season 3!!!

[de23]

Interesting "dirty secrets" list, although it appears that I disagree with you on all of them

[pellucid]

Re: #1, I was referring primarily to fic, but as I think about it, it absolutely applies to pretty much everything I've ever read. My favorite character in Hamlet is Ophelia, and in Macbeth it was Lady Macbeth, and I didn't like Julius Caesar much at all because there were no women. I loved Penelope and Dido far more than Odysseus or Aeneas. Stories that either lack a female character entirely--Robinson Crusoe, say--or whose sole female character is so difficult to redeem from the sexism with which she was written without having to entirely reimagine her--Paradise Lost comes to mind--go pretty emphatically on the "boring" list. Since you mention Sherlock Holmes: my favorite Holmes story--by far--is the one with Irene Adler, whom I found much more interesting than Holmes or Watson (which doesn't mean I necessarily condone the new movie version of Adler--but not having seen it, I can't say for sure). Basically, as I've read the Western canon-worth of male-focused stories (not that I've read the entire Western canon--but I've read a lot