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Mar 08, 2009 21:18

What do you guys think happened between Rorschach and Daniel in their back stories ( Read more... )

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foxypope March 9 2009, 07:28:17 UTC
I kind of think they were buddies/partners between '66-75, as much as you could be buddies with Ror. I liked JEH's theory that Ror appreciates Dan more than he appreciates Ror; Dan probably feels really distant from Ror because Ror doesn't tell him anything about himself, but on the split side, Ror's never felt so close to anyone before and considers Dan to be the closest thing to a companion. Yet Ror retains a professional sensibility of never revealing his name or any other personal information. I'd like to think that Dan at some point realizes that he's the only thing that Ror really has as a friend, but you can only speculate about that. (For instance, I think Dan always thinks he's on tenterhooks, like if he says the wrong thing with Ror that he might get angry and leave (like he can't joke or tease Ror at all, something that would be fairly normal in a friendship for Dan), while Ror is totally chill and thinks there's nothing wrong with their partnership whatsoever. That kind of thing going ( ... )

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beatrice_otter March 10 2009, 14:35:45 UTC
And then you consider that Ror tells the psychologist about what changed him, but not Dan ....

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aniwan March 10 2009, 19:19:11 UTC
Its a possibility that he did tell Daniel, it just wasn't specifically mentioned. But that's some good food for thought. :D

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foxypope March 10 2009, 22:00:35 UTC
I think he kind of used it against the psychologist, though. Sort of like "You want the full story? Heh, YOU ASKED FOR IT." I think he predicted at least somewhat how the psychologist would react. He wanted him to realize it's a fucked up world, no matter what fancy college degrees you may have on your belt.

And in that sense, maybe he wanted to protect Dan from that knowledge. It's pretty disturbing shit.

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aniwan March 10 2009, 19:02:58 UTC
It's likely that Rorschach drifted off track socially and professionally after the Roche incident in '75. And that seems to be the consensus around here, but maybe during this hard change for his partner, maybe Daniel tried to help Rorschach, knowing full and well what happened with the Roche case? Maybe he tried to support him the best he could, then considering Rorschach's powerful personality and unyielding pursuit for justice, whatever that may be to him, Daniel found that there was no longer common ground between them (common ground being their vigilante practices), and gave up? Maybe it was Daniel's lack of devotion to Rorschach that caused him to finally drift out of their friendship ( ... )

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foxypope March 10 2009, 21:56:04 UTC
Tbh, I don't think Daniel knows what happened with the Roche case. He wasn't there at the time, and I really can't see Rorschach telling him any horrific details. At MOST, maybe Rorschach came to him on that night--maybe. I sort of doubt it, though. But even if he did, all Dan would see was Rorschach covered in blood and being more psychotic than usual, which wouldn't tell him a whole lot.

You make an interesting point though. I'm pretty hard on Daniel, to be honest--WELL, not **hard** necessarily, but I see him as being very normal. Like more normal than any of the other Watchmen cast, definitely, and not as understanding as some people like him to be--just a normal man. And being normal, I can't see him feeling confident that he knows Rorschach. I think he definitely DOES know Rorschach better than anyone else, but it's not on a level where Dan realizes he does, because it's not a normal relationship, which is all that Dan is used to. I think eventually Dan DOES learn that he's pretty much Rorschach's only friend and that he knows ( ... )

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aniwan March 10 2009, 22:10:30 UTC
I'd agree for the most part, but there is a part in the GN during the Keene Riot between The Comedian and Daniel where The Comedian asks Daniel about Rorschach. Daniel tells him that Rorschach has been working on his own lately, and The Comedian comments "Rorschach's -nuts-. He's been nuts ever since that -kidnapping- he handled three years back." That makes me think that they all knew about it, because during 75, the masks were more glorified than frowned upon. I doubt Rorschach's actions went unnoticed by both the other masks and the press.

It became common knowledge to the public that he killed that guy. ><

Poor Rorschach. He just needs some soup and a blanket. <3

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foxypope March 10 2009, 22:16:06 UTC
Rory just needs a hug. ; ^;

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aniwan March 10 2009, 22:24:52 UTC
He does, but I'd be afraid of him decking me in the face. ><;;

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