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annaclaire January 4 2008, 16:52:26 UTC
I still fear Obama is going to be the next Jimmy Carter. Inspiring, but not much of a president.

Also, Elizabeth Edwards > Mrs. Obama.

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opprimo January 4 2008, 18:44:25 UTC
Well, Barack has been in elected office for more years than any other front-runner (20 years with the U.S. Senate and Illinois state senate) and not only began by building grass-roots support on the South Side, but worked his ass off in the Illinois legislature.

His time in Washington basically introduced him to the players. Now he's got the faith of his electorate and the youth and energy to reshape those players into real progressives, not just quid-pro-quo business-as-usual politicians.

Did I mention that Barack is basically an old hand expert on community organizing?

And by the way, you've OBVIOUSLY have never heard Michelle Obama speak, allow me to introduce you:

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opprimo January 4 2008, 18:45:50 UTC
And, while we're at it, Dennis Kucinich is the inspiring figure in the Democratic party, not Obama. Kucinich has good ideas, Obama has an actual plan.

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opprimo January 4 2008, 19:03:16 UTC
Finally, not to put too fine a point on it, the Iowa women caucused for Obama more than any other candidate, I believe the number was in the upper-30s or lower-40s.

Edwards even had more women caucusing for him than Clinton did.

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annaclaire January 4 2008, 19:36:33 UTC
I support first Kucinich (not likely), then Edwards, then Obama. If I had voted or caucused or whatever in Iowa it would have been for Edwards. I think now that Obama has won in Iowa he is going to be vetted a little more carefully, and I'm not sure how that's going to work out for him. I fear a Clinton candidacy but I would vote for her.

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opprimo January 6 2008, 13:05:55 UTC
Okay, so yes, this is some 2004 prejudice, but when people say they're supporting Edwards, I want to be like, "I said, presidential campaign, not vice-presidential campaign!"

And when it comes to Obama's vetting, we've been prepared. Oh LORD, believe me and we're ready.

And when it comes to Hillary being viable in the generals, I still hold to the idea that if she gets the nomination, the bracket is going to completely slide from moderate-to-liberal Republicans, Independents and all Democrats with Obama to Conservative-to-Moderate Democrats and Conservative Independents for Clinton, we're going to need to get the lead out for her.

I mean, seriously, can you imagine another four-to-eight years of a Republican administration who won against Clinton?

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