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The Fat Trap

Jan 04, 2012 22:33

The Fat Trap
Source - NYTimes
By TARA PARKER-POPE
Published: December 28, 2011For 15 years, Joseph Proietto has been helping people lose weight. When these obese patients arrive at his weight-loss clinic in Australia, they are determined to slim down. And most of the time, he says, they do just that, sticking to the clinic’s program and dropping ( Read more... )

science, health care, obesity, health, new york times

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kitschaster January 5 2012, 03:59:21 UTC

I really did enjoy the amount of this article that I read (I can't sit and finish reading it, not yet at least), but I enjoyed how open the writer was concerning her own weights struggles, and what many women go through. Especially the one woman who is 195 lbs, but strives so hard to maintain it.

*sigh* I wish I were 195 again. :(

shoujokakumei January 5 2012, 04:10:48 UTC

Same. The lowest weight I've ever been at in my adult life was 170, when I was living in the city and depending on walking/transit (and in a neighborhood relatively free of fast food). When I tell people I'd love to get back to that, they go "omg but that's still so fat!!!1"

Yeah, maybe, but I felt great and looked good enough to suit myself. And since I didn't have to starve myself or work out like a fiend to get there, that's what I'd like to be able to go back to - the lifestyle I had (and loved) was enough to do it.

homasse January 5 2012, 04:55:24 UTC

According to Wii Fit and it's "ideal weight" thing, I should aim for 147 pounds. And I laughed and I laughed and I laughed and said, "Yeah, so, I'm shooting for around 170, maybe 165, Wii Fit," and merrily ignore it every time.

...I will admit, though, I laugh evilly every time it tells me, because it tells me what it thinks I should be in kilo: 66.6 kilo.

>:D

Laugh evilly, then ignore it and tell it my goal is to lose a kilo in a month.

mariechan January 5 2012, 05:22:38 UTC

Maybe I'm biased but I wouldn't really trust a family game console to advise you on your health/weight/etc.

homasse January 5 2012, 05:35:58 UTC

Actually, it's pretty good about it, if you want something to give you low-impact exercises that are fun and keeps track of your exercise patterns and your weight fluctuations. But whenever you hit a goal, it asks you to set a new one, and "helpfully" suggests your "ideal" BMI weight. Which I ignore because I have T&A and very dense bones, so I'd look like unhealthy death at the weight it suggests.

mariechan January 5 2012, 17:55:34 UTC

Ah, I see. I don't have a wii myself, it's not something I can afford, but I was just saying that I don't know if I'd follow its advice, especially if it uses BMI for its targets.

romp January 5 2012, 06:41:59 UTC

I wish Wii Fit would drop the BMI entirely. And the weird tip about sleep. It told my tween to aim for LESS sleep. o_0

mschaos January 5 2012, 16:05:22 UTC

this - the one reason I don't get a wii fit is that is a: weighs me and b: suggests a healthy bmi

wonder what it would say about george cloony as with his muscle mass he is classified as obese

chaya January 5 2012, 18:48:39 UTC

Omg is that true? Overweight I could see, but obese?

not quite but close mschaos January 5 2012, 18:52:17 UTC

OK not quite, but he was at a BMI of 29 which if you get to 30 you are obese

but even so, seriously?

elialshadowpine January 5 2012, 18:49:54 UTC

Same. That and the fat shaming if you backslide at all or don't use it for awhile. I dealt with that kind of abuse from my dad; I am sure as fuck not dealing with it from a console.

hellaine January 6 2012, 00:59:03 UTC

Just chiming in for the Wii fit love. I have the same issue because my breasts are ginormous so it think sI'm overweight at 150, and I disagree, I think I'm lookin' pretty normal sized for my height but. It's a game, it can't really tell my exact BMI or whatnot, unless Skynet has taken over already.

That being said, thing rules because it keeps me consistent with working out and console game or not, anything that gets me moving on the regular in any way, shape or form has to be awesome.

Off topic csb but I just got it for the holidays so.

kitschaster January 5 2012, 07:12:36 UTC

Being 170 would just be so perfect for me. I could shop at stores that sold my size, ugh. Thinner people just don't understand that when you've gone so high in weight, getting back down to a size that's still kind of high is /still/ almost like setting an impossible goal, and if you could get back there, you'd just want to lavish in that area for a while.

I miss living in Los Angeles purely because the transit system (though annoying) was still good enough for me to walk around enough, and then hop on the bus when I got tired. I miss that lifestyle. *sighs*

mariechan January 5 2012, 04:29:54 UTC

My dad fat shames me for being 195. I probably am around 200 now but I honestly feel quite happy with my body.

But my dad and stepmom get on me for eating so much. She wouldn't even allow me to eat a full plate of pancakes during a pancake breakfast on new year's day. It's funny how other people assume they should know what's best for my adult body and try to control it. Her daughter too is rather SPITEFUL of how I eat.

I also hate my dad's mindset that because I am not a frown man, I should eat lesser portions than him or my brother when say getting an extra slice of pizza because I was so FLOORED from jet lag from an airplane and having to sleep all day after.

doverz January 5 2012, 04:37:17 UTC

My dad fat shames me for being around 160. I remember one time he asked me if I was pregnant.

homasse January 5 2012, 05:07:00 UTC

Oh, god, I remember when my big brother tried to fat-shame me when I was twelve. It backfired on him spectacularly, mind, but GAH.

big brother: Look down.
me: *looks down*
big brother: Can you see your feet?
me: ...No.
big brother: It's because you're fat! You need to go on a diet!
me: I'm not fat!
big brother: Look down!
me: *looks down*
big brother: Can you see your feet?
me: No.
big brother: You need to go on a diet! You're too fat!
me: I'm not fat!
big brother: Can you see your feet?
me: No.
big brother: *irritated and yelling* It's because you're fat! Your stomach is in the way!
me: ...It's not my stomach that's in the way! *glare*

Then there was a long, long pause, and he looked really, really confused...and then all the blood drained out of my big brother's face as he realized his twelve-year-old baby sister had really big boobsIn the twenty-odd years since then, he still tries to shame me, but now it's that I don't exercise enough and I make excuses ('cause, y'know, a hand in a splint with a damaged tendon, that's no reason ( ... )

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