War in Libya is Unconstitutional, Just Sayin'

[singularity2045]

"President Obama moved forward without Congress approving. He didn't have Congressional authorization, he has gone against the Constitution, and that's got to be said," Dem. Rep. Kucinich told Raw Story on Monday. "It's not even disputable, this isn't even a close question. Such an action -- that involves putting America's service men

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[tiddlywinks103]

They're right, but where were you right after 9/11, dickweeds?

[luomo]

kucinich and nader? they were definitely vocal.

[tiddlywinks103]

Really? Because, I heard no one being vocal enough to actually get a media platform and some real questions asked. Then again, I was pretty young...

[luomo]

that's the fault of the corporate media. are you not familiar with kucinich or nader?

[tiddlywinks103]

Yes, I am, and it is the fault of the media, what's your point?

I conceded I never heard them after 9/11 as vocally as now, probably due to my age, when it's a president everyone apparently hates from the get-go. I find it shitty. That's all.

[lexiloumarie]

and it is the fault of the media, what's your point?

Not the OP, but I think their point was that the media is the difference. The media was very much Fuck Yeah, America! If it didn't contribute to that image it was not going to get shown. Nader and Kucinich were not going to get the air time or the coverage no matter how vocal they were. Now we're all about isolationism and our economy first, so it's going to get shown.

[doe_witch]

lol, what is this thread even. And not everyone hated Obama from the get go, because duh, if they did then he would never have been elected. It sounds like you're seriously implying that two genuinely left-wing political figures are out to complain and be ~whining whiners~ about Obama but they didn't feel like complaining just as loudly as Bush. The left hated Bush and everything about him, and btw, Kucinich and Nader still get barely any coverage in the corporate/mainstream media today, even if you happen to be hearing about them. People on the Internet are just disseminating more and more "alternative news," which is the category they apparently belong in. So what is your point?

[tiddlywinks103]

I made it, but if you want to go on and keep telling me things I know, and agree with, feel free. I conceded that my recollection might be skewed due to my age, so what's there to fight about, at this point, in terms of this thread?

And the left's 'hate' was unable to keep Bush from being elected again, nor was it enough to keep the house majority, or push any of Obama's major policies through, but that's whole other issue of party solidarity politics.

[roseofjuly]

Cuz you were the one who was calling them dickweeds and then made a comment like

Yes, I am, and it is the fault of the media, what's your point?

It being the fault of the media IS the point.

Also we are only 3 months apart in age and I remember the media coverage of the 9/11 attacks, along with Kucinich and Nader being outspoken. I was 15 years old.

[tiddlywinks103]

Seriously? So, I didn't read everything the same way you did at 15, so maybe I didn't get the same info, even if we're the same age. It happens. All news access is not made equal, obviously.

I never heard anyone be really vocal about it being illegal, and that's how I remembered it, so I said an opinion on it, that showed that. I ended up not having all the info. No biggie, unless someone needs to make it one.

[roseofjuly]

Just adding a data point to the pool. You said that it might have been because your age; I was offering a counterpoint to that. It is probably instead due to lower access to the media sources that wrote about Kucinich and Nader being against the war in 2001, which may be partially but not wholly due to age.

[tiddlywinks103]

Fair enough.

[elialshadowpine]

I definitely remember them being outspoken about 9/11, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

[tiddlywinks103]

Ah, well I didn't. It happens.

[freeze_i_say]

lol @ you for being corrected and then being a defensive asshole about it