Paul Ryan: We’ll Defund Planned Parenthood In Our Obamacare Repeal Bill, Too

[moonshaz]

WASHINGTON ― With so much attention on GOP efforts to repeal Obamacare this month, there’s a detail to their plan that may slip under the radar: Their bill will strip all federal funding for Planned Parenthood, too

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[maynardsong]

Hey but it's OK because we stuck it to the neoliberals, right?

[blackjedii]

Nah. I couldn't have voted for a Dem even if I wanted to considering the DNC / state Dems have completely given up on my district and most of the districts in Virginia aside from the few urban areas. I suspect it is the same in many other places, especially as Clinton's campaign had a serious problem with hoarding all the national money because a rising tide lifts all ships or whatever excuse her team used to justify not spreading the funding to other candidates in other places.

And the Neolibs really wouldn't fight that hard to protect it to begin with. They'd just let funding bleed out via compromise and "greater good" principle that at least they saved Medicare and Social Security.

[maynardsong]

Hillary as POTUS would have vetoed that shit before you could say pro-life. But hey, everyone from whom she wasn't progressive ENOUGH can be satisfied that they got to stick it to the neolibs.

[blackjedii]

And there are enough Rs that it would have been easy to hamstring her big time by threatening other areas

[browneyedguuurl]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[backincharge]

I find it so funny that people keep trying to come after Bernie, call him a racist, say he's not a real democrat, etc. Meanwhile he's the only one truly speaking up, being vocal, and trying to save the party by having them change their priorities. lol

[moonshaz]

Who's coming for Bernie, and on what pretext? I have managed to miss this somehow.

I really don't get why anyone (except death eatersRepublicans) would want to come for Bernie right now. Reading about some of the things he's been doing lately has been giving me life.

[fauxkaren]

I have a friend who is a major Hillary stan and she posts a lot of anti-Bernie stuff and I'm just like???? This is the hill you want to die on right now???

[browneyedguuurl]

2018 is going to be a mess...

[elialshadowpine]

I've noticed the silence and, frankly, normalization from the Clinton corner. I am not pleased in the slightest. The neolibs are like the new Blue Dog Democrats. The only reason Hillary's campaign platform got as "progressive" as it did was because she realized that Bernie's supporters were reacting so strongly to them.

Some of the progressive wing are Democrat but certainly not all of them. Bernie, I believe, went back to Independent status after his campaign. I seriously want to see more vocal progressives like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren in the next two years. I have a lot of hope for Kamala Harris, from what I've heard of her.

[blackjedii]

I think there's a real danger of Progressives either being cowed or Neliberalized once they get there. IIRC one of the biggest complaints of all the new Dems in 08 was that they weren't allowed to draft policy or talk new laws... they were told to work the phone banks for donations. That plus the influence of lobbyists makes me think it's going to be a real uphill battle to keep genuine Progressives focused.

[redstar826]

People who think Clinton wasn't progressive enough and people who voted for Clinton are not the mutually exclusive categories you seem to think that they are.

[maynardsong]

But Hillary would never have let this shit see the light of day had she won the election. And that's why I make the comment that I do, everyone on _P was going on and on about how she isn't progressive enough, a war criminal, etc.

[blackjedii]

But Hillary would never have let this shit see the light of day had she won the election.
How? Ryan and the Republicans would still be in power. They would still have the power of budget. At MOST Clinton could threaten a veto, which whether she carries through or not could still have gone through and been countered with enough Congressional support to override. And even then, all it takes is the Repubs threatening a government shutdown or a government default, which has proven to work great for them in the past few years.

The Dems could have kept the Senate, if they had a better ground game and better financing. They didn't. Because the Clinton camp didn't disperse it. They couldn't have possibly won the House of Reps.

(fwiw this isn't anything directed specifically towards you - I am just so freaking frustrated at defending the Dems as though they didn't do anything wrong in the past eight years)

so instead have a guinea pig with a guitar: