Privilege is what allows Sanders supporters to say they’ll “never” vote for Clinton

Mar 23, 2016 09:43

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dorawa March 24 2016, 06:51:14 UTC
I agree with this article, I hate that people are going to vote for Trump because Bernie didn't win, like come on guys ( ... )

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cghardy March 24 2016, 16:51:10 UTC
I don't want to HAVE to vote for someone I don't like because it's my duty to keep a terrible person out the White House. It's a shitty feeling, and while the choice is obvious (I mean, Clinton vs the devils incarnate themselves, lbr) I wish I didn't HAVE to vote for someone I don't agree with because it blocks some douchebags from getting into office.

I've been looking for those words. Thank you.

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ivegotanlj March 26 2016, 17:51:56 UTC
I want to like, favorite, and marry this comment. I'm so tired of Hillary supporters blowing me off because it's expected that we'll all fall in line if/when she becomes the Democratic nominee.

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blackjedii March 24 2016, 11:06:44 UTC
LJ-cut. Please LJ-cut.

Secondly ugggh any time I start to see "that's privilege speaking!!" I start cringing inwardly. There's a reason Trump and Sanders both tend to appeal to very low-income people and it is because economic privilege is so rarely, rarely involved in conversations. And economic privilege tends to have a MUCH bigger impact on your life than many things.

It's terrible that our system is so broken that it only comes down to two candidates and "the lesser of two evils." That's not me being anti-Clinton; it's that whatever happens it's a given that economic privilege will not be addressed.

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cassiopeiaah March 24 2016, 14:42:33 UTC
ia with what you're saying but I don't think you can say economic privilege matter much more. It's just not true

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blackjedii March 24 2016, 14:58:32 UTC
You dont think so? I dont think its the only thing that matters but consider

- a woman who has way more income is able to travel more and travel farther so they do not have to worry about statewide abortion restrictions. Additionally a higher income woman is likely to afford better birth control

- a trans man or womam with disposable income is more likely to afford treatment like Caitlin Jenner and is more likely to afford whatever additional medical costs are incurred.

- a higher income PoC is more likely to afford a better neighborhood thus they are able to avoid gun violence that afftects poorer communities

- people who have been wronged with income have better legal resources

So rhere are always hurdles but economic privilege is a huge help

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calinewarkwc69 March 24 2016, 15:11:50 UTC
idk how this person can try and dismiss you on this.... I've been lower/working class my whole life-- and yeah, I don't think economic privilege is something a lot of people are prepared to accept if they've had it most of their lives. They don't realize how fucked it is to be poor.

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amyura March 25 2016, 03:32:08 UTC
Same. Most of my friends who support Bernie feel and will be voting the way I am: for whoever wins the Dem nomination. The few really hardcore Bernie bros (and they are ALL white men, make of that what you will) who really can't stand Clinton will either be staying home, voting Green, or writing Bernie's name in. I don't know anyone who likes Bernie who also can stomach Trump. Yes they're both populists from New York, but that's pretty much all they have in common.

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spidergwen March 24 2016, 11:34:40 UTC
I know there's gonna be some upset people here commenting on this, but I'm sorry I can handle 4-8 more years of Obama/Clinton really well, I cannot take another 4-8 years of a GOP president.

Maybe it's less to do with false "voting for the lesser of two evils" thing that gets me and less "privilege". Though admittedly my problem is with the "I'd rather it burn to the ground than have Hillary win" crowd who come across as whiny spoiled shits lashing out cause they didn't get their way. I don't think either Sanders or Clinton are anywhere near the GOP, in fact they match up on like 90+% on issues.

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that_which March 25 2016, 00:07:57 UTC
I suspect people who aren't sheltered from the repercussions of their ideological tantrums don't dismiss the difference between evil and not good.

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screamingintune March 25 2016, 15:53:12 UTC
I do wonder how many of the really young Sanders supporters fully remember how bad it was the last time we had a GOP president. It has been almost 8 years and W has been so quiet that people forget, I think.

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moonshaz March 26 2016, 00:11:52 UTC
This is a very good point, imo. I think you may just be right about this.

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invisiblegirlx March 24 2016, 11:35:33 UTC
If you have to guilt trip people into voting for your candidate, perhaps they aren't a very good candidate. I would vote for Hillary to stop the republicans, but if I were in a state where it isn't close at all, I wouldn't vote for her. And that would be my right.

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spidergwen March 24 2016, 11:37:03 UTC
I encourage this anyway, but given this race I wonder if some red states will turn blue again this year like they did in 08. I voted Obama in 08' and IN turned blue, then Stein in '12.

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invisiblegirlx March 24 2016, 11:43:16 UTC
Yeah I guess its possible if the republicans totally implode that many "red" states might go blue. I would definitely encourage anyone considering not voting to go vote for their local candidates even if they don't want to vote for president. Congress and the senate are in many ways more important.

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spidergwen March 24 2016, 11:45:58 UTC
I do encourage that as well but I also rip their ass when they want to talk revolution but are refusing to vote at all because Sanders isn't the likely nominee.

I honestly wish Sanders would campaign for local candidates alongside his own campaign. It would really help 'start his revolution' but I fear his campaign is incredibly mismanaged.

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