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brittdreams February 11 2016, 03:47:06 UTC
“Many of these are first-time voters and Senator Sanders’ message resonates with the younger generation because of the promises that he is making,” said Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.), chairman of the CBC. “But Mrs. Clinton and others are going to challenge the message by suggesting that it is unrealistic to believe that we can accomplish all of the things that Senator Sanders proposes.”

I feel like you could sub Sanders for Obama in that first sentence and this would be 2008 all over again. But, it's not like the CBC would've ever suggested that we not believe in Obama's promises. *sigh* CBC continues to disappoint.

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sweetmizre February 11 2016, 03:49:22 UTC
The promises are a bit different though

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brittdreams February 11 2016, 04:01:35 UTC
It's true. No one really believes a politician can deliver hope. But, Obama did make a number of promises we were told we could believe (closing Guantanamo comes to mind) that he never actually delivered on. And really, we should all know by now that the Congressional Republicans will stop at nothing to deny a Democratic president any legislative victories.

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ericadawn16 February 11 2016, 04:13:17 UTC
The whole experience with Obama is part of why I like that Sanders aims high. If a candidate aims high, then we can at least get a middle ground that's decent. Hillary aims for incredibly low goals that she says are "realistic" but if the compromise means we get below her already lowered goals...we still end up with crap.

I want a candidate who wants to go to the moon so we'll still get the stars.

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brittdreams February 11 2016, 13:26:37 UTC
MTE!

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calinewarkwc69 February 11 2016, 05:19:59 UTC
Hey though, Obama downsized Guantanamo quite a bit!!! He did a lot more than the Repubs wanted him too, but not enough to satisfy the lefty underbelly of the Dem party which in a sense is what has led to the rise of Sanders- like you said, the higher we aim, the higher "middle ground" becomes

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brittdreams February 11 2016, 13:25:58 UTC
Oh, I know he did. My point was that we're allowed to vote for promises even if they aren't realistic because, quite frankly, the alternative is to vote for realistic and then get a pile of craptastic s&*t dumped on us.

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screamingintune February 11 2016, 05:41:35 UTC
Closing Guantanamo is not nearly as difficult to accomplish as some of what Sanders has proposed, and that couldn't get done even when Obama had a majority. I don't think it's really comparable. A lot Sanders' proposals wouldn't pass a Congress with even if it had a Dem majority because some of them will be Blue Dogs who clutch their pearls about deficit neutrality and such.

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brittdreams February 11 2016, 13:27:49 UTC
I know, believe me. The only thing Sanders has going for him is that the openly racist BS will stop. I mean, Republicans said on day 1 of the Obama presidency that they were going to make sure he got nothing done and they've stuck to their word in that regard.

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