Reproductive Autonomy: Crossing the Species Border

Jul 30, 2010 14:42

Reproductive Autonomy: Crossing the Species Border
By Helen Matthews


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102bb July 30 2010, 18:47:09 UTC
Can you move your cut up?

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_like_weeds July 30 2010, 18:48:53 UTC
yes, to where

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102bb July 30 2010, 18:50:16 UTC
Just a few lines down from the picture, thank you.

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_like_weeds July 30 2010, 18:51:27 UTC
no problem

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boomstick July 30 2010, 18:54:05 UTC
Yeah, this article is just...no.

I also have to wonder what the author thinks about spaying/neutering.

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_like_weeds July 30 2010, 18:56:50 UTC
It's feminist to work toward the ending of sexual violence and reproductive control, which is an issue that transcends species boundaries.

I can see how it can be seen as transphobic, and I'm not defending that, but it's important to note that reproductive control is generally happens to those who have uteruses. Poorly worded, but that's what I got.

Regardless, those are points that need to be addressed but not while ignoring the points this article is actually making.

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shaggydogstail July 30 2010, 18:53:33 UTC
There is so much fail here I don't even know where to start, wtf.

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boomstick July 30 2010, 18:54:48 UTC
I feel like articles like this are reasons why PeTA thought it was totes coolio to compare Holocaust victims and slaves to cows.

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_like_weeds July 30 2010, 19:03:28 UTC
I don't think anyone is comparing how humans and animals experience these things, nor should they, but I can't see how people wouldn't see a parallell between the systematic killing and yes, enslavement of sentient creatures.

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boomstick July 30 2010, 19:05:18 UTC
The fact that you can't see how dehumanizing this article is worries me to no end.

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102bb July 30 2010, 18:54:41 UTC
I'm sorry, but this entire article is wrong on so many levels. The concept of equating the needs of women to the needs of animals just completely repulses me.

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_like_weeds July 30 2010, 18:59:37 UTC
I'm not sure it's equating the experiences, however I think all sentient beings deserve to be free from violence and reproductive control, and I don't understand how this can be seen as bad.

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happythree July 30 2010, 19:03:43 UTC
Until all of us, human and non-human animals, are free from sexual violence and reproductive control, none of us are.

You don't think this implies an equation through its assertion of an inextricable link?

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_like_weeds July 30 2010, 19:09:31 UTC
I think there is an inextricable link but I don't think all things that are linked are equal or the same.

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misters July 30 2010, 18:58:18 UTC
misters July 30 2010, 19:53:27 UTC
also I'm having trouble understanding the point of these sentences:

"You'll notice that the abusers in the video do not call the cows it, they call them she. They are seeing them as females, which they are."

........so...they're referring to the animals as...what they are? would it be less cruel if the workers called the cows "he" (even though, you know, male cows are bulls)? I don't know what point you're trying to make.

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