Жилищное строительство в СССР (Часть V)

[onb2017]

Сравнение с Великобританией в тот же период

В то время как направление траектории строительства жилых домом в СССР неустанно стремилось вверх, положение рабочих в центре империалистических держав  было иным. Например, в Великобритании состояние жилья для рабочих все еще оставалось ужасным. Мы должны опять помнить каким образом рассматривать историю

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[matrixmann]

I mean that also in regard to... when people try to glorify that poverty.
Maybe not that state of things as it was a hundred years ago, but, say, the state of things about 50 years ago or so.
I don't know what one can glorify about this while one has more comfort in his own flat during these days.
Like - do you enjoy it, sharing your rooms or facilities with people so much because there's not enough room?
Do you enjoy it sharing stuff with people you don't know, if they would have been even friendly to you?
This is always something thought and felt under the precondition of living together with people who know how to behave themselves. What if you were stuck with people in that situation that you couldn't even have a chat with about the weather without being each others devil?
To me - I know enough about things human brain likes to talk itself into believing. Human brain likes to glorify things which weren't good if the present state of things feels so much worse to you than the state back then.
And, you know, if I see that coming from somebody who hasn't lived in conditions who where worse like this, who enjoys all the comfort of these days usually, I can't conclude from it that it's being happy about "having improved" one's living conditions. Then it's just the usual glorification shit "talking about things one has no idea about".

[onb2017]

I don't know if I know anyone who liked living in bad conditions though. Maybe they are just ashamed and hiding it? I know nowadays with all this propaganda that people are lazy and deserve it and how shameful it is to be poor, lots of people try top pretend it is not them. At least in public.

[matrixmann]

No, I don't think that's it.
It's just talking yourself things pretty (schönreden) for whatever reasons that only the people know who voice it.
I for myself can't complain about being able to live in solitude if I want to or need days like that...
You know, only because people were more forced to work together daily doesn't mean automatically they were better and more noble characters... There's also such an ability of "shutting one's mouth for the sake of peace".

[onb2017]

To a certain point. But at some point it will become unbearable. I know myself I may push some things to the point until it is high time and then become amazingly productive and achieve lots of progress. For many it means it is still tolerable, maybe.

[matrixmann]

I think similar in this.
I can talk myself into believing a lot how more "primitive" circumstances were a lot better than this now, but, just only let old age or even disease and ill fortune come to you (before you get old), so that you're in need of a city apartment that has all facilities in it, so that you don't need to share anything with anyone, and - boom! - there you go, you got the use of your "beautiful primitive circumstances".
This only works as long you got power in your muscles and as long as your bones and metabolism is intact.
When this starts to cease for whatever reason, and you're stuck with it, see how quick people help you and don't help you, when you're in need of it...