[Spoiler (click to open)]yes, I can actually see that... randomly meeting her unknown twin and having an "oh shit" moment.
In that case, sideeye to Maddox for the implied relationship, though.. I know he wasn't a sympathetic character to begin with in TNG but the fact that Data then ultimately worked with him made me think more positively of him.
The thing that bothered me about [Spoiler (click to open)]Seven is that I can buy her getting to a point after so many years where she acts more human and more expressive, but because we've seen none of that journey, it feels jarring and disconnected from the Seven we last saw.
I liked the idea of Icheb appearing and am 100% down with him dying given that the actor playing him tweeted for people to lighten up re: Adam Rapp's accusations about Kevin Spacey. It just felt like we needed to see even just a little more as an audience to earn that death. Especially because we've no idea what things were like between Seven and Icheb after Voyager.
I think that's the biggest issue I have with this episode. I was okay with a lot of things but had to leap so many emotional chasms to get to them and wanted the show to provide at least a few more bridges.
I did not like this episode at all, I'm honestly put off watching the rest of the show. I don't watch ST for gore and torture and I'm pissed [Spoiler (click to open)]they killed Icheb like that. They didn't even give a good reason for it, it was just a plot device to give Seven a tragic story.
ia, it was completely unnecessary. Her own story should have been more than enough but they had to [Spoiler (click to open)] make it about a "grieving mother", making her pain more about her function / emotions for someone else. It would have been more than enough incentive if her revenge was about the treatment of xborg in general.
I think what I'm really not connecting with in regards to Trek of the last 10 years is that it's so slick and shiny. Part of the Star Trek appeal is that sets and special effects were a bit shit and the element of campiness was never far away, and that the earnest tones and political compassion were paramount.
[Spoiler (click to open)]I didn't expect Icheb at all. He and the Borg kids were a fave set of episodes in Voyager. It all hit me at once - that he got into Starfleet and he became an Officer. So proud of my bb Borg. And that he and Seven think of each other as family. And then that. I was crying even after the episode ended.
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I suppose that could be, like a S2 twist. She's an android but doesn't know it. Because the naïveté and the questions are too much.
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In that case, sideeye to Maddox for the implied relationship, though.. I know he wasn't a sympathetic character to begin with in TNG but the fact that Data then ultimately worked with him made me think more positively of him.
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I liked the idea of Icheb appearing and am 100% down with him dying given that the actor playing him tweeted for people to lighten up re: Adam Rapp's accusations about Kevin Spacey. It just felt like we needed to see even just a little more as an audience to earn that death. Especially because we've no idea what things were like between Seven and Icheb after Voyager.
I think that's the biggest issue I have with this episode. I was okay with a lot of things but had to leap so many emotional chasms to get to them and wanted the show to provide at least a few more bridges.
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Her own story should have been more than enough but they had to [Spoiler (click to open)] make it about a "grieving mother", making her pain more about her function / emotions for someone else. It would have been more than enough incentive if her revenge was about the treatment of xborg in general.
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fuck me for wishing more familiar characters would show up 😭
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