'Avatar'-who?, 'Avengers: Endgame' expected to become highest grossing film EVER in a few days.

[ljtryout]

BREAKING!!! #AVENGERS #ENDGAME crossed $1.2 BILLION OVERSEAS and has now grossed $1.664 BILLION WORLDWIDE!! It’s set to cross $2 BILLION WORLDWIDE this weekend & should pass AVATAR ($2.78 billion) as the highest grossing movie of all time in a couple more weeks! pic.twitter.com/g8hHCd4Xkc
- Scott Mantz (@MovieMantz) May 2, 2019

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[icedevil0289]

I still haven't figured out how I feel about this film. Some parts and character moments I really loved and gave all the feels, others not so much. I wish I came out of it feeling the same way I did after IW.

[kerosene_pill]

same bb, fucking same. I wanted Infinity War set to level 100, but instead we got...that.

[icedevil0289]

I will say the times that I did get emotional during this end game, I really got emotional. While I was super sad about the deaths in IW, I knew they weren't permanent . Obviously the ones in this one are or atleast I think so anyways. With IW it was an amazing ending and just made me really excited for end game and then with the last shot of end game being a dance, I'm just like ohh hmmmm and this has nothing to do about how I feel about any person's ending. I've sort of over debating what was right and what was wrong, its just compared to the final shot of IW vs the final shot of end game, the former left me super excited, the latter just kind of empty.

[sthlmsyndrom]

same, overall i enjoyed myself but i as also disappointed at times
[Spoiler (click to open)] not the fact that nat dies, but that she dies so early and without a funeral, the jokes at thors expense (i feel like if his mom had said eat some vegetables or put down that drink it would have had such a better energy

[icedevil0289]

[spoiler]I believe he knew Peggy for a few years, but even with that being said, I never felt like they were a fully established relationship. I think we had the makings of what could have been a great relationship. I've had so many conversations about Cap and go back and forth on how I feel about his ending and after having another one, I realized that cap as far as the MCU goes never truly found his footing in his present day time. I don't know if part of that had to do with the fact that they hardly established him and any of his relationships before introducing bucky. I know there was Sam and Nat, but it just felt like one work thing after the thing with him. They could have tried something more substantial with Sharon but dropped the ball on that. I feel like Steve was always hung up on the past despite all the bs about moving forward, a lot of his narrative was about bucky, partly due to guilt and another part of him wanting to hang to the past. I guess he thought that once everything was over and he felt he no longer needed to protect

[sthlmsyndrom]

[Spoiler (click to open)] i feel you on going back and forth, bc on the one hand i buy this being a road to happiness for steve, but i agree on liking peggy but being over them as a couple, i really liked agent carter and i was shipping her left and right on that show and TFA came out so long ago i have no investment in them! people were literally going who is she at the movies - that dance should have been an end credit in my opinion!

i said this below also, but there is just too many questions about his new timeline! did he leave himself on the ice to avoid competition for peggy?!? i cant see how he could avoid it - i mean as cap 2 i would be bitter AF if cap 1 left him on ice (to live the life cap 1 never liked) when he could save himself asap. and i have to believe he would collect bucky, but would he put in the effort of improving his universe or is he like all done even on like political stuff

[icedevil0289]

[spoiler]omg I know there are a lot of questions. Perhaps they should left this for the "what if" series. I think based on that interview with the writers, it was very clear they wanted tony to die and steve to live, but once they had steve live they weren't sure what the hell to do with him and clearly thought this was most appropriate ending. I also don't know if I like the narrative that tony's only ending was meant to be death because its a move from being selfish to not, which we've seen has been established countless times since the first iron man, but that is a separate rant. That and also the narrative that steve finally decides to do something for himself when that also isn't the case imo.

[sthlmsyndrom]

[Spoiler (click to open)] why would they go in with the attitude of this one dies, prob how they ended up in a less thought out situation... im not even a tony fan but the man has a kid why did he have to die? its so overdone!

ok, how about like cap in the mcu is all about the morals right, but if you go into the past, there are like a thousand things he can (should?) do to make the world better - too many things! but i feel like every choice made to not get involved would change him for the worse, right? if he just retired and noped out of everything. but! if he did go and make happier lifes for baby natacha and tony etc, what if his universe then cant defend against thanos? uugh the more i think the more conspiracy theory i get!

and also like i wrote below we saw his life in TFA, all he had was bucky so really there is only peggy now to return to (maybe bucky if he cares to save him), so is the time so important? i guess? ugh i saw endgame again today thats why im all !!! right now

[icedevil0289]

[spoiler]I like tony so idk I'm taking comfort that he atleast went out helping to save the world, but they really play up these old tropes of selfish guy makes the sacrificial play when he did that already in avengers.

its how I feel when they said that cap's journey has always been about being this selfless guy to a guy who chooses himself first for the first time or some other bs and i'm like y'all clearly forget your past movies because cap has shown times of being selfish so I don't get this reasoning.

the timeline of it all hurts my head, like what happens with what version of steve.

[sthlmsyndrom]

[Spoiler (click to open)] i totally agree, both steve and tony have both been selfless and selfish... these many movies in its dumb to act like they are these undeveloped characters when we all saw! the! movies!

i wonder if its their head canon getting in the way, if they don't pay attention to movies made by other directors?

[hubbabubbabb]

This is what I’m wondering as well: do they even bother watching previous MCU movies? Because IW and Endgame were both so terrible with their character development (besides Thor and Nebula).

[sthlmsyndrom]

even tho i know the russo brothers werent there in the beginning but it feels a little like how i met your mother - where they creators had this view starting out and were adamant in following through even if it did the characters an injustice at that point bc of their development

[sugarspice101]

[Spoiler (click to open)] It felt so out of character for him. All these times about him moving on...finally finding some sort of a life, meeting Sharon...then all of a sudden for EG he could NOT move on from Peggy. The scenes were cute in theory...but it was obvious that they needed Steve to end his arc somehow since Tony was the one who sacrificed himself. I guess they couldn't think of another way.

I've said that I would've liked it more if Steve died (I would've hated SEEING it though) and in his final moments he sees Peggy and it's like his vision in AOU "we can go home now" that would've been cheesy but cute lol.

[icedevil0289]

[spoiler]tbh looking back on it, did they really establish Steve has moving on? I know they said it and yes he formed some relationships, but a lot of it revolved around work. My big gripe with MCU was the very weak found family that they say the avengers was but really wasn't. I don't care for his ending whatsoever , but I feel like Steve always longed for the past. I do wish he stayed in present day but he must have felt like after all this there is nothing for me here, which is kind of sad. I knew a few posts back, someone said the worst thing they did with MCU steve was introduce bucky/winter soldier early on because then a large part of Steve's narrative became about him and then as a result very much stuck on the past.

Man I feel so bad for what they did Sharon, did her dirty.

[sugarspice101]

[Spoiler (click to open)] I thought he did form a family. Steve and Sam were best friends. Then he of course had his old best friend back in his life. I just find it hard to believe that after Tony died he was thinking everything will be okay, I can just leave now and live in the past even though I have this new family right here

[icedevil0289]

[spoiler]I suppose the family he formed wasn't enough for him to get by and keep it together in present day. idk if the avengers, apart from Sam, were truly his family or that he felt they were his family. they came and went simply based on what fight was happening at the time. I guess he thought Sam would be okay without him, idk