Earthdance, Ketamine, Ashlie, and Torch

[obtrectation]

I haven't written much lately. I haven't really felt like sharing. It seems I've raised the bar on what qualifies as “significant enough to record”. Should I entertain every small detail, or reserve this space for life altering events? It seems the less I write, the more I'd have to explain for the present to make sense, and without time to recap,

Comments

[meadelante]

Perhaps you consider this part of the 4th plateau but after a k-hole there is a space where you comepletely lose your idenity. Recovery takes a while perhaps more than a hour, but the space of time recorded in your mind lasts much longer. Epiphanies occur constantly because the realization of an ever impending reality awake and expand from a new perspective. I do agree the 4th is a fluctuation, but in a k-hole often you can still move.

I consider it a 5th, because the effects are more like or higher than Ayuhasca or a high dose of 5-MEO-DMT except with retrograde amnesia. At this point, a method of creation unseen occurs while reality about you slips closer. The after effects can last an hour in real time but in my trials often more. Often I become part of a belief that what I see before me has always been, without the knowledge of a body and only the existance of a being with no beginning or end. The causality of the universe is infinately reconstructed yet constrained within the confines of the visual range I am in. In my k-holes I often hallucenate but do not believe the ideas presented by my subconcious.

I also think it is a place higher than 4, becuase I reached it with no tolerance and 1/2 gram of ketamine which is a measure about 1g/118kg body weight at once.

But to really explain it in any physical term is subjective and often irrelevant. My ketamine espisodes were always completely different than most people. I have made pizza, done homework, and typed comprehensive stories while under the influence of a moderate to high dose. I know only two other people with this capability. (drugs always worked opposite on me) So anything I say is probally just the measure of my own accord and not any relevancy to your measures. I just thought I'd talk a bit =d

I also stopped all of this stuff a while ago. I have done enough exploring of the mind for my lifetime and perhaps a few more. reality is more important right now. hugs

[obtrectation]

I completely relate to what you're saying, but I consider all this a part of Tier 4. As I said, it can be many things - spiritual, funny, frightening, etc, but I didn't expand on that much. For me, loss of identity comes with Tier 4, and picking up the pieces and clues leading back to reality is always the best part. The transition from this stage is remarkably spiritual for me. It feels like an eternal adventure, and it may sound strange, but when normal conscious awareness returns, I am left feeling like a triumphant planewalker returning safe but weary from an ethereal war. Also, the "reconstruction" process enables me to realize and appreciate things about myself and my environment that never would have come to the surface otherwise.

[meadelante]

I think you are right. Tier 4 can expand farther than the other tiers. It is unpredictable. At this stage, it does not matter how much time and space are bent, becuase it is something in itself important to your experience in the same significant way. :]