Douchey Moments in History

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Welcome to another edition of Douchey Moments in History!

Noah confronts Luke about "outing" him to Maddie
In this clip, we get to watch Noah be a complete dickwad to Luke, because it's apparently ALL LUKE'S FAULT that Noah isn't going to be living happily ever after with Maddie, all because Luke refused to lie to Maddie in the previous clip,

Comments

[bigboobedcanuck]

Great post! You're doing an awesome job with these. *high fives*

It's so interesting to me to rewatch these old scenes and look at them in a whole new light. As we've discussed, at the time I was so desperate for a gay ship that beggars couldn't be choosers! So I cut Noah a ton of slack and made many excuses for him. But it's interesting to me to look back and see how quickly I cooled on Nuke from a fandom obsession standpoint. I started watching the summer Noah appeared, and I only wrote six Nuke fics, the last of which was in the following January. I still watched, but Luke and Reid has been SO much more consuming than Nuke ever were.

Lily: You really like him, don't you?

Luke: Well, I mean, I've liked other guys, but I've never had anyone feel that way for me.

What a telling line. I really do think that Luke's attraction to Noah was definitely in part because Noah was attracted to him, and because Luke didn't think anyone else would want him. That's why he was so amazed later that Reid was interested in him, and so flattered

[peggin]

Great post! You're doing an awesome job with these. *high fives*

Thank you!

It's so interesting to me to rewatch these old scenes and look at them in a whole new light.

It really is! I mean, I never loved, loved, loved Noah like I always have with Luke, but I *liked* him and I wanted him and Luke together, and now I'm rewatching these clips, and it's just so obvious that I overlooked a lot of ABUSIVE behavior -- BAD ME, the way I was willing to throw Luke to the wolves just because I wanted a gay couple on my TV screen!!!

I really do think that Luke's attraction to Noah was definitely in part because Noah was attracted to him, and because Luke didn't think anyone else would want him.Oh, I definitely think so. I haven't found it yet, but right now I'm looking through some of the pre-Noah clips, because I'm like 99.99% sure there was a scene at one point where Jade was telling Luke about all the hot guys who were going to want him, and Luke insisted that there wasn't anyone like that. He has just always had such low self esteem, and

[bigboobedcanuck]

I definitely remember that Jade/Luke convo, and how insecure Luke was, and how he was just so certain no one would ever like him that way. Oh, Luke. :((

Thank GOD for Reid!!!

INDEED! It just makes me so happy that Luke found someone who loves him just the way he is and values him as a partner.

AND THEY LIVED HEA.

[peggin]

I found the Jade/Luke convo I was talking about:

Oh, Luke! How can you be so awesome and have such a low opinion of yourself? *pets Luke*

[daybreaq]

I wasn't watching the show back then, but I'm very aware of the history of the show in general. (I'm a bit obsessive and tend to look things up.) That has to be one of the most cringeworthy scenes in the show's history! Luke and Jade really dodged a bullet there! They were lucky Luke is gay and, as he pointed out in one of the other clips in this post, NOT like Noah: willing to have sex with girls to try to become not gay.

(For those who don't know what I'm talking about, it turned out Jade was Rose's biological daughter after all. And Rose was Lily's identical twin.)

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I know! I've commented on that myself in the past -- Luke and Jade may technically be cousins, but genetically Luke is as closely related to Jade as he is to Faith or Natalie. So, yeah, the whole thing with Jade saying maybe Luke could try to be "not gay" with her? So completely icky!

[pghbekka]

I really do think that Luke's attraction to Noah was definitely in part because Noah was attracted to him, and because Luke didn't think anyone else would want him.

This was such a heartbreaking part of the situation and Luke's character. It was definitely a recurring theme. There was the Jade/Luke convo, his conversation here with Lily, the heartfelt admission from Christmas you linked to in the comments yesterday (part of his impassioned I love you Noah speech was how he never thought he'd have that), even at the pond post operation where he's trying to tell Noah about his feelings for Reid.