Your answer to my challenge is pathetic, as it refuses to actually answer my challenge, which was for it's intent: "HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN MY DEEPLY SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE WHICH LEAD ME TO PAGANISM?" Your answer, in it's entirety is simply "Why Christianity is better." and falls back on the ole' No true Scottsman fallacy - which negates, as far as I'm concerned, your entire argument the moment you use it.
Nightwind, you don't know a single thing about me. You've just proven that. I never 'tried' Christianity, I WAS Christian - but your kind never accepts that. Never believes that, because then it throws a monkey-wrench in your perfect little belief system.
Surrender to God? I've got a quote for you. Winston Churchill, "WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER!" And I never shall. I belong to ME.
This is my first, and only post in your journal. So I'll close in the same manner I close all of my rants with.
Re: OMGWTFLOL!!!11!nightwind69November 3 2005, 07:19:23 UTC
Please tell your friend that I deleted his post not because it offended or upset me. (It didn't.) I deleted it because I didn't want people who might look at my journal while at work to get in trouble for looking at filth while they're at work. I also know that some of the folks on my friend's list are parents of small children, and I had visions of them looking at my journal with a five-year-old looking over their shoulder. Perhaps your friend thinks that sort of thing is "funny." I do not, and apparently you do not as well, which is to your credit. In the future, should this friend want to have me look at filthy stuff that he thinks is "funny," please tell him to email it to me where it can be properly ignored and where others don't have to look at it.
And I sincerely hope that this friend isn't a pagan because if he is, this sort of behavior makes one an extremely poor example of someone practicing that path, as Skyblaze pointed out. As I recall, the pagan path calls for tolerance and peace, does it not, and that those who
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You don't have to submit to my God. Even were you a Christian you don't have to do so. You just won't get very far if you don't, is all.
And you know, why do I have to quote from your own journal in order for you to recall what you said (and, perhaps more importantly, didn't say) in it? You said:
I stepped away from JWs, and started praying. Asking for answers, asking to know which of God's churches was the truth, what WAS the truth? I wanted to know my God, my saviour. I received no answer, I received no direction, after months with no sign - I became rather angry, rather bitter.
So, you said that you started praying, that you received no "answer" and no "sign," so you became angry and bitter about it. I offered you a possible explanation as to why you might not have received the answer or sign that you were looking for, that would have convinced you to remain Christian. That doesn't mean it's the right answer. That's why, in my original answer, I called it a "possible answer." Like I said to Az, I don't know you, I don't know
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So, because I was full of rage against God and didn't want to work through those feelings, because I just wanted to hold on to my anger at God for what I saw as his cruelty and for what I saw as His apathy, I renounced all belief in any god of any sort and went out searching for something else that made sense to me because, frankly, pure atheism didn't. Along came Buddhism and a chance encounter with a Buddhist monk on a bus, who sat next to me one day when no one else would because I was crying my eyeballs out, alternately (still) mourning my brother and spewing venom at God; I was probably frightening people. But he talked to me, comforted me, accepted me, and recommended a certain book for me to read, which I then checked out of the library and that started me on that path.
So, to make a long story short, this short, chance encounter with one Buddhist made me seek out more information about Buddhism, which as I said I found to be very attractive not because of anything that was "revealed" to me but because I felt that it was "
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So, this is what I meant by other paths being, in my experience, easier in the sense that they "felt right" and that required much less of me, personally.
Easier and "requiring less" in your experience. Doesn't necessarily mean that others' experiences are the same.
Now, I'm not saying that what you're feeling isn't genuine or isn't a good thing. Because, quite frankly, I did become a "better person", certainly a much less angry person, because of Buddhism. So in that sense, it was good. God made use of it.
That doesn't mean, though, that what was right for me is right for you. Only you know that, and, ultimately only God knows that.
Exactly. Exactly.
Basically, your experience was that Buddhism was right for you at that time, but at some point, you realised you needed more, you needed a personal God, you needed Christ. Yes
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Your answer to my challenge is pathetic, as it refuses to actually answer my challenge, which was for it's intent: "HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN MY DEEPLY SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE WHICH LEAD ME TO PAGANISM?" Your answer, in it's entirety is simply "Why Christianity is better." and falls back on the ole' No true Scottsman fallacy - which negates, as far as I'm concerned, your entire argument the moment you use it.
Nightwind, you don't know a single thing about me. You've just proven that. I never 'tried' Christianity, I WAS Christian - but your kind never accepts that. Never believes that, because then it throws a monkey-wrench in your perfect little belief system.
Surrender to God? I've got a quote for you. Winston Churchill, "WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER!" And I never shall. I belong to ME.
This is my first, and only post in your journal. So I'll close in the same manner I close all of my rants with.
FUCK YOU.
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Way to spread a message of peace and tolerance.
Remember the Threefold Law?! Whatever you send out...
It will come back to bite you on the arse.
Everyone is entitled to thier own beliefs, and everyone's experiences are different, because of who they are and how they percieve things.
Nightwind spelled out her own experience, and your return attitude is to go off on one. Nice going.
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And I sincerely hope that this friend isn't a pagan because if he is, this sort of behavior makes one an extremely poor example of someone practicing that path, as Skyblaze pointed out. As I recall, the pagan path calls for tolerance and peace, does it not, and that those who ( ... )
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And you know, why do I have to quote from your own journal in order for you to recall what you said (and, perhaps more importantly, didn't say) in it? You said:
I stepped away from JWs, and started praying. Asking for answers, asking to know which of God's churches was the truth, what WAS the truth? I wanted to know my God, my saviour. I received no answer, I received no direction, after months with no sign - I became rather angry, rather bitter.
So, you said that you started praying, that you received no "answer" and no "sign," so you became angry and bitter about it. I offered you a possible explanation as to why you might not have received the answer or sign that you were looking for, that would have convinced you to remain Christian. That doesn't mean it's the right answer. That's why, in my original answer, I called it a "possible answer." Like I said to Az, I don't know you, I don't know ( ... )
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So, to make a long story short, this short, chance encounter with one Buddhist made me seek out more information about Buddhism, which as I said I found to be very attractive not because of anything that was "revealed" to me but because I felt that it was " ( ... )
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Easier and "requiring less" in your experience. Doesn't necessarily mean that others' experiences are the same.
Now, I'm not saying that what you're feeling isn't genuine or isn't a good thing. Because, quite frankly, I did become a "better person", certainly a much less angry person, because of Buddhism. So in that sense, it was good. God made use of it.
That doesn't mean, though, that what was right for me is right for you. Only you know that, and, ultimately only God knows that.
Exactly. Exactly.
Basically, your experience was that Buddhism was right for you at that time, but at some point, you realised you needed more, you needed a personal God, you needed Christ. Yes ( ... )
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