SHIELD

May 06, 2015 13:13

I have questions that will involve spoilers for Age of Ultron and the most recent Agents of SHIELD regarding, well, SHIELD.

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green_grrl May 7 2015, 01:35:35 UTC
Here's what I pretty much assumed:

After CA:TWS, Cap and Tony and Maria made up the Avengers Initiative. As far as Cap and Tony (and the world) were concerned, SHIELD was gone. Tony was the bankroll and Cap was the Avengers team leader. They took in Natasha and Clint. (And Bruce.) Maria got to do all the administrative stuff and see what could be rescued as far as resources and (trustworthy) personnel from old SHIELD to be used for AI. The Avengers Initiative was mainly cleaning up old Avengers business, like Loki's scepter, and possibly other threats that countries asked for help with.

Maria was the only one who kept in touch with Fury (Cap and Natasha and Sam, I think, assumed he was underground and out of the way) and who knew Coulson was alive. Coulson has been feeding Maria intel, like the Sokovia facility, as needed, and working with her on building the bigger Avengers Initiative facility (Theta Protocol project) and rehabbing the original Helicarrier.

Coulson's SHIELD (even though SHIELD is supposed to be dead) has been underground playing cleanup from the SHIELD-Hydra mess, and he has probably been splitting old SHIELD resources and personnel with Maria.

Gonzales's SHIELD is a delusion.

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spikedluv May 7 2015, 10:48:00 UTC
Gonzales's SHIELD is a delusion.

Haha, best answer!

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nialla42 May 7 2015, 16:12:23 UTC
That sounds a lot more coherent than anything I got from the film or series. I happened across the first Avengers movie on TV last night and I think I figured out what's been niggling me about A:AoU. There was too much happening, both plot wise and onscreen, so we had plots that weren't fully serviced, and fight scenes that were, IMO, too cluttered to tell what was going on half the time. You really can have too much of a good thing.

Poor Coulson. Dead, revived by alien serum that almost drove him insane twice over, given the title of Director of SHIELD when SHIELD has fallen and is now on everyone's shit list. I wonder if his part of SHIELD is going to remain a sort of deep cover operation, dealing with Hydra remnants, the Inhumans, and whatever else crops up, and passing intel back to Maria Hill to be sorted out. If they're going to keep the series name, SHIELD has to exist in some form.

I thought Theta Protocol was getting the helicarrier rehabbed in secret. Lots of equipment and personnel were required for that to happen, and that would explain Coulson's secret trips. Though I guess the new base could also be included in that, especially if it was completely new or one that was off the SHIELD books but might have needed some expansion to handle being and Avengers base of operations. Maybe that was what Fury truly meant when he said Coulson was going to rebuild SHIELD. He was being absolutely literal.

I like that they're introducing the Inhumans concept now, so people unfamiliar with the comics version (like me) get a primer, but I'm not seeing that being drug out until the film in 2019. It would be interesting if they'd alternate series, such as running a series like Agent Carter (which I still have hopes will get another season) to break things up and allow for other bits of story to be told. We could get foundation for other characters and story points that wouldn't be required to understand the films, but would be a bonus.

Gonzales's SHIELD is a delusion.

Absolutely. He was also a hypocrite, because he had secrets of his own, but was demanding Coulson tell all, all based on his fear of people with powers or alien influence. In his mind Coulson is compromised because of the alien serum, and he will never see Coulson as anything other than a potential threat.

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aelfgyfu_mead May 8 2015, 00:54:25 UTC
Gonzales's SHIELD is a delusion.
Yes!

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