The Second Coming

[neva_butterfly]

I've heard it postulated that Jesus has actually returned to earth already, that the second coming has already happened.  The twist in that theory is that Jesus returned but we immediately killed him or else ignored him completely asking "Who the heck is this homeless guy dressed in rags who keeps asking us to be nice to the poor?  That's super

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[alexandral]

I don't know. I am a Christian, you know. A very serious have-read-Bible-three-times-believes-in-Jesus one. :D Because Jesus is a person as well as God for me I don't try to figure out what he would have done or said in present day situation, like with other persons - it is up to him, right? But it is just me.

it's like that homeless crazy guy dressed in rags, who went around helping the poor and the sick, it's like he didn't even care about the single most important issue facing our country and the entire world today. Please note sarcasmHee ,I see the sarcasm. My own POV is - I think (personally, just my own opinion) that it could be better for everyone if we tried to think more about others (as in thinking about the world, the poverty, the ecology, children) and less about ourselves (as in trying to satisfy our desires and making the satisfaction of our own sexual desires the most important issue on the planet). But - who am I to say what other people should think, I might be incorrect about things hundreds of times

[neva_butterfly]

Yeah, I know it's supposed to herald armageddon, I'm being a little silly with this

[alexandral]

I am very much against the convergence of church (any church - Muslim, Christian, Buddist) and the goverment. Faith and government are two completely different things.

Like there are also these people here who go to funerals for dead soldiers, dead gay people, and dead liberals, and they hold up signs saying "God Hates Fags" or "You're going to hell for helpign fags" or whatever.
I have been arguing with people who want to make gay marriage not just illegal, but forbidden by constitutional ammendment and it always comes back to the idea that they want it banned because they are Christian.I think the first kind of people couldn't have been further from Jesus even if they tried. (Here - I am speaking on behalf of Jesus ;D

[neva_butterfly]

Right now churches are allowed to put any requirement on people they want to before allowing them to marry in the church. Some both people must belong to the church, some you have to take marriage classes from the priest, some you have to sign a document promising to have children and raise them in the church, and so on... Some churches will not perform weddings for people who have ever been divorced for example. So I don't think any church would be forced to perform any wedding they don't approve of. But changing the law would allow gay couples to get married in civil ceremonies and to have the same legal securities that married straight couples get, and would also mean that churches who believe in gay marriage could perform those weddings. The people who want laws banning gay marriage are saying to others "even if your religion allows it you can't do it because my religion doesn't allow it

[alexandral]

It's like everyone is allowed to vote for John McCain if they want to, but that won't stop me from telling them reasons why they shouldn't do it.

I wish I was American and could vote. McCain and his crew give scares me. But I know some good folks who are going to vote for him, so I guess there must be some good in him too..

Hee - My problem is that I often can understand both points of view. :( I think civil gay marriages should have been approved ages ago already. But I can also see that there is so much negativity towards faith directed nowdays and I could see why some of religious people (not just Christian) could feel threatened.

So I don't think any church would be forced to perform any wedding they don't approve of. But changing the law would allow gay couples to get married in civil ceremonies and to have the same legal securities that married straight couples get,

I hope both these things will come through. The faith differences issue aside, I don't see why this is still not approved.