I thought the film was AWESOME as well, really looking forward to the next part. Was a little disturbed by the scene where Hermoine wiped her parents minds, very unnerving!
Yeah, that was a little disturbing in the book too, even if a little better explained with their dream now always having been moving to Australia. Pretty extreme in any case!
I thought it was a very touching scene, it's disturbing, but it's also clearly about loving, worrying, and a hard decision to make. How she disappeared from the photographs? It's amazing. Beautifully executed.
Yes, I know, and it was very touching, shiver inducing, tear jerking and all that, just with a side of "How can you do that?! What crazy kind of plan is that?!?" for me, because I'd definitely rather die at Bellatrix' hand than just forget my kid after 18 years and Hermione couldn't be sure that she'd be back to reverse it, if you know what I mean.
Yes, I do know what you mean. But if she never got back to reverse, they'd never feel the pain of loosing her -- and if they WERE killed at Bellatrix's hands, Hermione wouldn't be able to live with herself.
Hermione's parentsterri_testingJanuary 1 2011, 23:44:49 UTC
"they'd never feel the pain of losing her"? We actually don't know that. If fact there's some reason to infer the reverse. It seems that Obliviated memories are repressed, made unavailable to conscious access, not removed--otherwise Voldemort couldn't have recovered Bertha's Obliviated memories. And repressed memories of important events can poison a person's later life.... So it's quite possible that the Wilkins know something is missing in their life, without any way of accessing what it is
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Re: Hermione's parentsdianaprallonJanuary 2 2011, 00:34:25 UTC
Not the same thing. Living with a loss you can't identify isn't the same thing as KNOWING your daughter is dead -- no matter how you look at it, the second is much worse. I'm not saying they won't suffer or miss her, only that they won't feel the pain of loosing -Hermione-, particularly Hermione, which is something different even from the idea of 'daughter.'
Losing -Hermione-terri_testingJanuary 2 2011, 17:13:47 UTC
Nods, okay, yes. Or rather, maybe--we know the memories are there, just not accessible, so there might be bleed-through....
But my own experience of really bad emotional pain is that, for me, it helps to be able to name it. To talk about it, sometimes, but even if not to know what's going on. Times when I've pushed things down (I've never actually repressed memories but I've come pretty close), they stayed there, hurting, until I let them back up and dealt with them.
If I had an inexplicable but overwhelming sense of loss, thinking I was crazy for caring so much about nothing at all wouldn't help....
See, Hermione assumed if they didn't remember their loss they couldn't grieve over it. I'm not so sure that's true--or that if it's true one charm would accomplish it.
Anyhow, this discussion inspired a drabble, "Wendell Wilkins." If you'd like to read it, here it is....
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But my own experience of really bad emotional pain is that, for me, it helps to be able to name it. To talk about it, sometimes, but even if not to know what's going on. Times when I've pushed things down (I've never actually repressed memories but I've come pretty close), they stayed there, hurting, until I let them back up and dealt with them.
If I had an inexplicable but overwhelming sense of loss, thinking I was crazy for caring so much about nothing at all wouldn't help....
See, Hermione assumed if they didn't remember their loss they couldn't grieve over it. I'm not so sure that's true--or that if it's true one charm would accomplish it.
Anyhow, this discussion inspired a drabble, "Wendell Wilkins." If you'd like to read it, here it is....
http://terri-testing.livejournal.com/38745.html
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