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Feb 23, 2011 21:30

I mentioned to acchikocchi a while ago that I was going to write a post about how I write DV and DS. this is kind of that post? or just me blathering on.

characterization, DV/DS and so on )

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acchikocchi February 26 2011, 03:00:59 UTC
by "write a real comment" I guess I meant "fall asleep early and wake up with the plague", since that's what happened. bleah. anyway, my thoughts, probably fairly disjointed as half of them were written on cold medicine.

background: I was familiar and with and vaguely fond of the pairing and its component parts for some time before I got, shall we say, personally invested. that happened right around the World Cup -- specifically, I went back to watch Spain's Euro 2008 matches (having completely ignored them in favor of Germany at the time) and by the end was watching in one hundred percent David Silva Vision(tm). and then some how David Villa came along, too. like a package deal.

in regards to DS, the timing -- just as the whole starting lineup debacle went down, as the Man City transfer went through (and looked at the time as though it was due to preferable options falling through) -- influenced my attitude a lot and still kind of bleeds through into... everything. I want everyone to understand what a great player he is, and I ( ... )

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nahco3 February 27 2011, 19:21:27 UTC
you were the first person to write DV/Leo Messi, too, which seems to be catching on these days.

I'm not saying that I can create OTPs with my mind, I'm just saying that CRon/Messi will be the next big thing. trust me.

"fall asleep early and wake up with the plague"

ugh, I'm sorry. feel better soon!

rewatching Euros, I need to do that! at the time, I was a complete mess of panic, because I was rooting for Spain and constantly expecting them to be depressingly defeated. I actually left the room during the pks with Italy every time Spain had a penalty, then I'd come back to watch Italy kick, then leave again. and so on. but: by the end was watching in one hundred percent David Silva Vision(tm). and then some how David Villa came along, too. like a package deal.

YES YES YES. Euros was like. the golden era for them. ironically, all the fic I wrote then was SUPER ANGSTY but what can you do.

want everyone to understand what a great player he is, and I want him to get a lot of nice things in fic, namely David Villa. it's possible I'm a ( ... )

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acchikocchi March 2 2011, 19:26:01 UTC
I had a reply to this half written and then Firefox ate it. I will attempt to reproduce some of it while I procrastinate on finishing this project that I really don't want to work on.

I'm not saying that I can create OTPs with my mind, I'm just saying that CRon/Messi will be the next big thing. trust me.

I would be very glad to see this come true. for Leo's sake, obviously - he deserves more than someone who'd get always be seeing someone else and possibly call him by the wrong name at inopportune moments. just saying.

rewatching Euros, I need to do that!

they were really fantastic. I know there's already been plenty said about the super-defensive opposition against Spain in the World Cup and how that affected the matches, but watching the two sets of games around the same time, they really looked so much more, hm, imposing in the Euros. like, the dissection of Russia? oh maaaan. totally exciting for a rewatch, is what I mean.

also, I really really want to write like an actual football blog post about the different career ( ... )

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wow long comment is long - two parts baby! nahco3 March 3 2011, 02:17:24 UTC
for Leo's sake, obviously - he deserves more than someone who'd get always be seeing someone else and possibly call him by the wrong name at inopportune moments. just saying.ahahaa. I WANT TO WRITE THAT FIC. except it would be kinda mean to Leo/DV shippers. but still. Leo and DV are ambiguously hooking up! and CRon and Leo have some sort of weird friendship going on where they talk to each other only about the stuff they can't say to anyone else, dating from the time some tabloid published a scandalous article on Leo, and Cris called him up and told him "I know it sucks ( ... )

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Re: wow long comment is long - two parts baby! acchikocchi March 3 2011, 04:05:58 UTC
maybe I'll just throw out fic scenarios in EVERY COMMENT and see how many results I can get kdsadklfjlsdfjlafjlsfd. please get carried away all the time. Cris and Leo's "it's so hard to be the two best players in the world" friendship! longsuffering Cris and his unrequited love! MISUNDERSTANDINGS GALORE.

"He says his own name during sex? Jesus fucking christ, I didn't think he was that arrogant."

*diiiiiiies* oh Cris. oh DV.

and after el Classico or whateveryou mean after they lose el Clasico? where DV is really upset with himself for not scoring (because they're playing him ineffectively of course XD) and maybe brushes off Leo more harshly than he intended to. he didn't really mean to brush him off, period, he just wasn't thinking about it. which is sort of the problem ( ... )

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Re: wow long comment is long - two parts baby! nahco3 March 4 2011, 03:15:48 UTC
you mean after they lose el Clasico? where DV is really upset with himself for not scoring (because they're playing him ineffectively of course XD) and maybe brushes off Leo more harshly than he intended to. he didn't really mean to brush him off, period, he just wasn't thinking about it. which is sort of the problem.

yes yes yes, exactly. like, DV doesn't mean to be dick to Leo, but he's upset and he misses DS and has a completely different perception of his relationship with Leo than Leo does. (ie, Leo thinks they're dating, DV thinks they're fucking around. and of course they never talk about it.)

and instead he goes home and broods, and then DS texts him and he feels better and worse at the same time.

OH YES YOU AREA GENIUS AND I LOVE YOU. so true, so true.

...yeah, poor Leo. whatever, he ends up with someone properly adoring in the end, it's fine. (I kind of want Cris to confront DV over this, too, but I don't know how that would even happen. except obviously Cris is not at a level to handle DV so he'd just get angrier and ( ... )

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Re: wow long comment is long - two parts baby! acchikocchi March 4 2011, 03:55:54 UTC
of course they never talk about it.

of course they don't, one of them is David Villa. (ilu DV, honest.)

because...how did you get to Silva, bastard, if you're lying I'll kill you!"

YES YES YES EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. he thinks it's some kind of slam about him being still hung up on Silva and is infuriated on about three different level (how did you know/you dare mock my broken heart/YOU DID WHAT) and then the red mist clears and it's like "but how did you even - wait. you're friends with... waaaait."

obviously this all happens inside his head, but his face undergoes a progression of blank --> murderous --> still murderous but also slightly confused --> clearing into comprehension and also some relief. and Cris is like "...what the fuck."

And then David maybe realizes he needs to start thinking about Leo more seriously, or dumping him.yes. and he maybe tries thinking about seriously just to see how it feels - because like you said he thought it was something totally different - and it just... doesn't. feel right. perhaps ( ... )

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Re: wow long comment is long - two parts baby! nahco3 March 4 2011, 04:36:20 UTC
of course they don't, one of them is David Villa.

ahahaa, so so true.

he thinks it's some kind of slam about him being still hung up on Silva and is infuriated on about three different level (how did you know/you dare mock my broken heart/YOU DID WHAT) and then the red mist clears and it's like "but how did you even - wait. you're friends with... waaaait."

THIS MENTAL IMAGE IS SUPERB. and of course he would jump to that conclusion immediately in part because he's thinking about DS (and how pathetic he is to be thinking about DS, etc) all the time, so it's the first thing on his mind.

and he maybe tries thinking about seriously just to see how it feels - because like you said he thought it was something totally different - and it just... doesn't. feel right. perhaps there's a feeling of "maybe this could be possible, in a different universe"yes yes yes. DV wouldn't give up right away, because he'd feel bad that Leo was trying the whole time and he didn't notice, but then he'd be trying it just wouldn't work. sigh. and that's a nice ( ... )

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edited. curse this html. acchikocchi March 4 2011, 05:25:01 UTC
in part because he's thinking about DS (and how pathetic he is to be thinking about DS, etc) all the time, so it's the first thing on his mind.

yes yes yes yes yes. of course.

that's a nice allowance to make for the shippers.

it's called being magnanimous in victory. XD

Messi would do it because he doesn't really want DV anymore but he's too nice to dump him. so he tries to create a situation where DV has to dump him.

oh! and then he tells CRon and CRon assumes he's hung up about it and there is ANGST and then sex and then happily ever after.

AHA perfect solution! (CRon is such a martyr, I love it.) why isn't this a fic already, seriously.

DV FLIES TO MANCHESTER AND REALIZES HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE SILVA LIVES.

that is my first reaction. and then has to call DS and DS comes and picks him up at the airport. and then they might actually have to talk about their feelings. oh god.OH MY GOD. YES. THIS IS PERFECT ( ... )

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Re: edited. curse this html. nahco3 March 4 2011, 05:57:58 UTC
perfect solution! (CRon is such a martyr, I love it.) why isn't this a fic already, seriously.

this is exactly how I feel.

MY FACE WHEN I SAW YOU HAD WRITTEN SOME. it was grinning a lot.

oh my god.

His voice was shaking. "Coming here to say you're - sleeping with someone else, and that's why I should - should - " His hands were trembling, too - with anger? with hurt? Silva didn't finish his sentence. There was nothing David could say, so he didn't.

THIS THIS THIS. Silva's body language. the angst. DV's silence. oh god so good. and the fact that Silva' right, in a way, that David is that much of a douche. but also that he isn't. my point being this is all my characterization kinks in one place and it is amazing.

"It's not like I didn't know," he said. "Or guess. But - even you - I didn't think - "

so my hobby is trying to think of the saddest possible ways to finish these sentences. oh Silva, honey. D: D: D: so much pain.

That made David speak. "How could you have - "DAVID YOU IDIOT. how could he have known? don't be a dick. ( ( ... )

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Re: edited. curse this html. acchikocchi March 4 2011, 17:28:04 UTC
that scene was totally cheating because I got to write all the razor angst and peaked tension, i.e. my favorite parts, without having to worry about pesky things like "build up" or "follow through". but what is commentfic for if not for self indulgence like that?

not that I don't want a 50k epic about DV/DS. (ot: this is something I always felt I should write, but know I am not capable of.)

you know I would be your slave pretty much forever, right? I mean. I understand it's an undertaking. but if anyone in this whole fandom were qualified... (how about, like, 20k?)

and ok fine just a little bit:

:D the lure is impossible to resist.

David sits at the breakfast table, looking at a newspaper he can't read.

I love this detail. hee.

He knows what he needs to say, should say, but it's like there's a wall between those words and what comes out of his mouth.

"What's there to talk about?" he asks.

oh, David. I want to thwack him and laugh at him at the same time.

Silva gives him a look, steel-edged.

"You tell me," he says.I love DS ( ... )

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Re: edited. curse this html. nahco3 March 5 2011, 19:08:09 UTC
because I got to write all the razor angst and peaked tension, i.e. my favorite parts, without having to worry about pesky things like "build up" or "follow through". but what is commentfic for if not for self indulgence like that?

exactly! that's why comment fic is clearly what I'm meant to write.

you know I would be your slave pretty much forever, right? I mean. I understand it's an undertaking. but if anyone in this whole fandom were qualified... (how about, like, 20k?)

ahahaa, we'll I will honestly try one day! probably over the summer, when I have free time.

I love DS so much. so much. almost as much as I love you

why thank you. that is a high compliment. :)

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Re: edited. curse this html. acchikocchi March 6 2011, 02:53:22 UTC
ahahaa, we'll I will honestly try one day! probably over the summer, when I have free time.

:D :D :D :D :D

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Re: acchikocchi March 9 2011, 04:14:28 UTC
Was looking for something entirely different and found this:


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Re: nahco3 March 9 2011, 15:32:18 UTC
THANK YOU FOR THIS SO MUCH.

I literally have no words, only inappropriately loud laughter, considering I'm in the library right now.

Dani Alves also adds a certain je ne se quoi to the whole affair.

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Re: acchikocchi March 11 2011, 05:34:07 UTC
DV LOOKS SO SHORT NEXT TO CRIS. because he is. I love it.

(he does, you're so right.)

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