I don't know what I would have done in your case, where you weren't given time to take care of yourself. That's pretty serious, I think.
Yeah, it was very rough to be in a clan that explicitly holds itself apart from the rest of the community, meaning that you can't connect with whatever friends you have outside the clan, but then also not have the clan leaders make an effort to draw all the members of the clan together. You end up pretty isolated.
I was thinking that next year would finally be the year I applied to Crow, but I'll *really* think long and hard on it.
This was Moira and Duncan's last year. And yes, I know they say that every year, but this time it felt like they meant it. ;-) It seems like Kelly will be taking over, and I liked her as a leader much better than I liked Moira. I feel like the cliquey aspect will be much reduced with her at the helm -- but the schedule will stay the same, so the sleep dep probably won't. Oh, although I think we had extra work to do because Wolf didn't run (like, specifically, I think they would have been spotting the trance dance instead of us), so that might make a difference in future years.
And as a final comment, there are instructors who rock.
Oh, definitely. I had a great time in Camel with Amanda, who is not part of the "core". But I also really liked Tracy and Jason and how they led Wolf, and they're more core-ish. I think I'll have zero urge to ever take Raven, though. ;-)
Oh, although I think we had extra work to do because Wolf didn't run (like, specifically, I think they would have been spotting the trance dance instead of us), so that might make a difference in future years.
I'm afraid not; every year Crow has run so far, they've spotted the trance dance!
I'm sorry it didn't rock for you. I was also surprised to learn about the bonus sleep dep the first time I did Crow, and as dilletante alleges, it's also really hard on me, so I have a lot of specific sympathy for that.
Also, having taken a Feri camp intensive with T. Thorn Coyle herself, I can tell you that although I like her and respect what she does, not even she is all that to all people :) No one is, and I think that's ok.
Yeah, it was very rough to be in a clan that explicitly holds itself apart from the rest of the community, meaning that you can't connect with whatever friends you have outside the clan,
that aspect scared the piss out of me going into wolf. i wound up making explicit arrangements to spend particular times with moominmolly and dancingwolfgrrl and also making a point of casually checking in with the other boston folks. and doing that, i was ok. this year i was less worried because it had worked out the previous year just fine, but i still made a lot of arrangements to check in with people. probably more than is normal...
but then also not have the clan leaders make an effort to draw all the members of the clan together.
well, apart from the 3 solid days of magical group-bonding excercises. :) maybe a lot of those were old hat to you, though, from your dance experience. and it's a different *kind* of bonding than shooting the shit over dinner, i guess. social dynamics are tricky!
well, apart from the 3 solid days of magical group-bonding excercises.
Well, yeah, like I said, I'm sure it was at least half me that was the problem. Those kind of non-verbal exercises don't leave me feeling like I know anyone any better afterwards, and it certainly didn't seem like anyone knew me any better.
Yeah, it was very rough to be in a clan that explicitly holds itself apart from the rest of the community, meaning that you can't connect with whatever friends you have outside the clan, but then also not have the clan leaders make an effort to draw all the members of the clan together. You end up pretty isolated.
I was thinking that next year would finally be the year I applied to Crow, but I'll *really* think long and hard on it.
This was Moira and Duncan's last year. And yes, I know they say that every year, but this time it felt like they meant it. ;-) It seems like Kelly will be taking over, and I liked her as a leader much better than I liked Moira. I feel like the cliquey aspect will be much reduced with her at the helm -- but the schedule will stay the same, so the sleep dep probably won't. Oh, although I think we had extra work to do because Wolf didn't run (like, specifically, I think they would have been spotting the trance dance instead of us), so that might make a difference in future years.
And as a final comment, there are instructors who rock.
Oh, definitely. I had a great time in Camel with Amanda, who is not part of the "core". But I also really liked Tracy and Jason and how they led Wolf, and they're more core-ish. I think I'll have zero urge to ever take Raven, though. ;-)
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I'm afraid not; every year Crow has run so far, they've spotted the trance dance!
I'm sorry it didn't rock for you. I was also surprised to learn about the bonus sleep dep the first time I did Crow, and as dilletante alleges, it's also really hard on me, so I have a lot of specific sympathy for that.
Also, having taken a Feri camp intensive with T. Thorn Coyle herself, I can tell you that although I like her and respect what she does, not even she is all that to all people :) No one is, and I think that's ok.
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Oh, huh! Yeah, I guess the year I was in Wolf and we spotted it, Crow wasn't running (two years ago).
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that aspect scared the piss out of me going into wolf. i wound up making explicit arrangements to spend particular times with moominmolly and dancingwolfgrrl and also making a point of casually checking in with the other boston folks. and doing that, i was ok. this year i was less worried because it had worked out the previous year just fine, but i still made a lot of arrangements to check in with people. probably more than is normal...
but then also not have the clan leaders make an effort to draw all the members of the clan together.
well, apart from the 3 solid days of magical group-bonding excercises. :) maybe a lot of those were old hat to you, though, from your dance experience. and it's a different *kind* of bonding than shooting the shit over dinner, i guess. social dynamics are tricky!
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Well, yeah, like I said, I'm sure it was at least half me that was the problem. Those kind of non-verbal exercises don't leave me feeling like I know anyone any better afterwards, and it certainly didn't seem like anyone knew me any better.
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