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ceallaighgirl June 16 2006, 05:14:00 UTC
"'In America you do not stamp out a bad idea by repressing it, you stamp out a bad idea with a better idea,' he said."

Okay, better idea: if you don't like America, LEAVE.

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musicman04941 June 16 2006, 08:08:54 UTC
well...here's another idea. our rights to free of expression are being supressed by this amendment. a demonstration that involved a burning of the american flag may indeed be a little extreme, but it is "protected" by the first amendment. and that person burning the flag wouldn't necessarily not like America, they wouldn't like what is happening in it.

because i disapprove of our country's decisions and leadership doesn't mean that i don't like being an American. i want to see change in our country, and limiting our rights to free speach and freedom of expression is the right decision.

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ceallaighgirl June 16 2006, 13:11:43 UTC
Hmm, it seems to me that one could find infinitely more effective (and efficient) ways to "fix" America than burning a flag. Burning a flag doesn't say anything but "I hate America" because that's actually the only sentiment it expresses. It doesn't even come close to addressing the issues at hand.

Dang. I should start burning things to express myself. Yeah, I'll start burning books.

Ooh, or I could go kill a bald eagle.

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musicman04941 June 16 2006, 17:28:11 UTC
Burning the flag is a demonstration. You know, just like displaying photos of aborted fetuses. Or a white supremist group gathering for a public rally. If I were to burn the flag, I wouldn't be saying "I hate America," I would be saying "I hate what America has become."

Even if burning the flag meant "I hate America" (which it doesn't necessarily mean), it doesn't matter. We're talking about protecting the first amendment.

Perhaps we should create something like the Ministry of Truth so that our citizens would learn not to "hate" America. And maybe we should send everybody who has something about our country to speak out against to the Ministry of Love.

You start limiting rights, this is the road you are walking on.

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crazytim June 16 2006, 06:18:23 UTC
I'm going to go burn a few flags while I still can.

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theytookunix June 16 2006, 22:31:04 UTC
Dyson, after reading that whole argument thing (as well as before), I'm totally in agreement with you. Personally, I would never burn a flag because of what it represents to me, but I also would not even consider having (my significant other have) an abortion (unless it were a threat to her life), but I'm pro choice. It's all about priorities. In my eyes, yes, I don't like the fact that people burn the flag that my ancestors fought for (and against D:). But that doesn't mean that I want to take away their right to do so. That is akin to repressing the freedom of the press to insure that no bad about the government is shown to the public. Sure, they aren't the same thing. But they are of a similar nature. Simply because some people do not like this form of expression is no reason to block it. What's next, blocking the use of complex metaphor because the president can't understand it? I mean, it (most likely) won't get that far, but this is a very slippery slope. First is the ban on flag burning, what's next? A block on ( ... )

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