if it don't end in bloodshed, dear, it's probably not love
Orphan Black: The Scandal of Altruism
Wow, they actually made me tear up with Kendall's death, something I didn't think was possible, though that's mostly because of Cosima. How do they not have backup of the data? (Is Scott a Neo mole? I hope not!) I imagine Helena's non-viable embryos will suddenly become much more important in the plan to save Cosima (and possibly Ira, though I honestly couldn't care less about him).
Helena needs to come back and shiv Duko and Evie (nice naming there - Eve as the mother of humanity, and Evie trying to make humanity "better" - whatever that means).
For all that she brings the comedy wherever she goes (poor Felix), I don't like that they're leaving Krystal unaware. She should be clued in ASAP!
There was a lot going on here, and I'm not sure it all makes sense, but I feel that way about all of OB, so... here's a good layout of the various players in the various levels of conspiracy. I don't think it's any more coherent than X-Files ever was, but hopefully it will end before it collapses under its own weight, and really, I'm watching for the clones and their various friends and family, not for the plot. *hands*
Speaking of clones, I was discussing The Clone Wars with two entirely different people last night, and in addition to encouraging
silveronthethree to possibly write some AU fic, I still have the same two major questions I have always had, which are:
1. Who in their right minds sends a 14 year old to war? (let alone puts her in command of troops!)
and
2. Who thinks having a 20 year old with impulse control issues supervise her is a good idea? (I mean, okay, Obi-Wan is there a lot of the time, and he is nominally an adult, but it's not like he's not pulling reckless stunts all the time either. He's just better at talking other people around in the aftermath.)
And
girlinthetrilby was like, "well, the same sort of people who elect a 14yo as planetary ruler," which is a whole 'nother WTF!
I mean, I love the show and I love Ahsoka and her relationship with Anakin (and I do think it was a good thing for both of them despite how things turned out), but that is a super dodgy way to raise children entrusted to you, especially in a supposedly more enlightened/more advanced society. I am just saying.
Anyway! Here are some other links of interest:
= Living Dead Boy: Jason Todd vs. The Culture That Killed (And Resurrected) Him, an interesting look at the second Robin, why he existed in the first place, why he was killed off, and why he was eventually resurrected (though it doesn't really go into why no one at DC aside from Judd Winick seems to know what to do with him; apparently he's "evil" again in rebirth? Which. The whole thing sounds like a big mess, so I'm gonna wait to see what it does with my faves. At least Wally is no longer written out of existence?).
= Markus & McFeely clarify their statements about Bucky. Apparently they were asked about that interview where they said Bucky should be punished for the things he did while he was brainwashed and had been tortured for 70 years and stripped of agency, and their response was: But the point is, that we the audience forgive Bucky because we know what exactly happened. I’m not positive it’s that easy for Bucky to forgive himself. Bucky, you know, he said on the quinjet, Steve tried to forgive him, but he said: “Yeah, but I did it”. And he remembers all of them. So I’ve always thought that the story of Bucky coming to have a happier life or better perspective on his terrible century, is going to take a while. And my hope is that he can forgive himself and that he can come to a good place, but I bet you that’s money on - not that easy.
So that seems more in line with what actually happens in the movies and also how the character is portrayed than their original flip response that he shouldn't be eating fruit salads with Steve after all the people he killed as the Winter Soldier.
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Wow, they actually made me tear up with Kendall's death, something I didn't think was possible, though that's mostly because of Cosima. How do they not have backup of the data? (Is Scott a Neo mole? I hope not!) I imagine Helena's non-viable embryos will suddenly become much more important in the plan to save Cosima (and possibly Ira, though I honestly couldn't care less about him).
Helena needs to come back and shiv Duko and Evie (nice naming there - Eve as the mother of humanity, and Evie trying to make humanity "better" - whatever that means).
For all that she brings the comedy wherever she goes (poor Felix), I don't like that they're leaving Krystal unaware. She should be clued in ASAP!
There was a lot going on here, and I'm not sure it all makes sense, but I feel that way about all of OB, so... here's a good layout of the various players in the various levels of conspiracy. I don't think it's any more coherent than X-Files ever was, but hopefully it will end before it collapses under its own weight, and really, I'm watching for the clones and their various friends and family, not for the plot. *hands*
Speaking of clones, I was discussing The Clone Wars with two entirely different people last night, and in addition to encouraging
silveronthethree to possibly write some AU fic, I still have the same two major questions I have always had, which are:
1. Who in their right minds sends a 14 year old to war? (let alone puts her in command of troops!)
and
2. Who thinks having a 20 year old with impulse control issues supervise her is a good idea? (I mean, okay, Obi-Wan is there a lot of the time, and he is nominally an adult, but it's not like he's not pulling reckless stunts all the time either. He's just better at talking other people around in the aftermath.)
And
girlinthetrilby was like, "well, the same sort of people who elect a 14yo as planetary ruler," which is a whole 'nother WTF!
I mean, I love the show and I love Ahsoka and her relationship with Anakin (and I do think it was a good thing for both of them despite how things turned out), but that is a super dodgy way to raise children entrusted to you, especially in a supposedly more enlightened/more advanced society. I am just saying.
Anyway! Here are some other links of interest:
= Living Dead Boy: Jason Todd vs. The Culture That Killed (And Resurrected) Him, an interesting look at the second Robin, why he existed in the first place, why he was killed off, and why he was eventually resurrected (though it doesn't really go into why no one at DC aside from Judd Winick seems to know what to do with him; apparently he's "evil" again in rebirth? Which. The whole thing sounds like a big mess, so I'm gonna wait to see what it does with my faves. At least Wally is no longer written out of existence?).
= Markus & McFeely clarify their statements about Bucky. Apparently they were asked about that interview where they said Bucky should be punished for the things he did while he was brainwashed and had been tortured for 70 years and stripped of agency, and their response was: But the point is, that we the audience forgive Bucky because we know what exactly happened. I’m not positive it’s that easy for Bucky to forgive himself. Bucky, you know, he said on the quinjet, Steve tried to forgive him, but he said: “Yeah, but I did it”. And he remembers all of them. So I’ve always thought that the story of Bucky coming to have a happier life or better perspective on his terrible century, is going to take a while. And my hope is that he can forgive himself and that he can come to a good place, but I bet you that’s money on - not that easy.
So that seems more in line with what actually happens in the movies and also how the character is portrayed than their original flip response that he shouldn't be eating fruit salads with Steve after all the people he killed as the Winter Soldier.
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people have commented there.