searching our hearts for so long

[musesfool]

Four things make a post:

1. I have been enjoying the terrible reviews of Batman vs. Superman so much. SO MUCH. I know that this movie is going to make bank regardless but if terrible reviews and poor word of mouth means it fails to meet internal box office projections and has a severe dropoff after its opening weekend, I will be pleased, because

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[kita0610]

Ok, I'll bite. I'm a Batman 'fan' but not a FAN, so this movie will just be a fun romp (or not) for me. Why are FANS up in arms about it?

[musesfool]

Well, I hear that a lot of diehard fans are defending it? I haven't seen it so I can't say definitively, but the reviews say it's an incoherent mess, that Superman is a cardboard cut-out and Jesse Eisenberg is painfully miscast as Lex Luthor.

Plus it's supposedly self-serious and portentous but with a philosophy of heroism that's banal and sophomoric. Plus Batman apparently kills some guys via shooting a rocket launcher at a helicopter and also he has guns on the Batmobile and basically Batman's main rules are NO KILLING and NO GUNS, so those are things comics Batman would never actually do.

So from what I'm hearing, it's not just badly written, it's no fun. Which to me is the worse sin? Because I don't pay $15 a pop to not be entertained. (I also have no plans to see this in theaters.)

[kita0610]

Guns and killing are NOT Batman- even I know that. He's the DC equivalent to Daredevil. Or you know, vv, whomever came first. Well, he's darker than DD which is why I like him better. But yeah, no guns. I'm not remotely a Superman fan- to me he ALWAYS seems cardboard. I.. had no idea it was whatshisname as LL. That's a tragedy.

[musesfool]

well, Batman was first, but yes, Daredevil is the Marvel equivalent (despite people thinking it's Iron Man because of the playboy billionaire thing).

I think Superman in the right hands is great, but these are not the right hands. In Man of Steel, THEY MADE HIM JESUS INSTEAD OF MOSES. WHAT EVEN.

[kita0610]

OMG I remember seeing the previews for that! Where he like, ascends to the sky surrounded by light- and Maze and I looked at eachother and went NOPE, not seeing THAT movie.

[musesfool]

Oh, it's even worse than that. They had him duck into a church and talk to a priest with a stained glass window of Jesus right behind him, bathing him in its light. SO WRONG.

[kita0610]

... Well- ok, again. Not a fan or a FAN of Supe. But isn't he kinda Jesus? I mean, sent to earth from Elsewhere to save humanity? Hence me not being a Fan TBH.

[musesfool]

I'm pretty sure he's Moses, sent to safety in a basket spaceship and raised in a foreign culture as the ultimate immigrant, who then saves his people with superpowers.

A couple of links: 10 Reasons Superman Is Really Jewish and Superman Is Jewish.

[kita0610]

Oh- right, weren't his creators Hebs? I'll have to check out those links. Maybe I'll wind up a fan?

[musesfool]

Yes, and he was created in 1938, so like Captain America, there was definitely some response to Nazism involved.

Also like Captain America, in the right hands, Superman can be a fantastic character, but so many people think because he's a decent (and super powerful) guy he must be boring and they write him as a bland do-gooder.

[kita0610]

Yeah, that's the wayI have always seen him portrayed. Hence not being a fan. You've met me, I like my heroes way darker.

[musesfool]

He's definitely not dark, but he can be complex and interesting when written well. *hands* I never thought I cared that much until I saw how wrong Man of Steel got him.